Herr General Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 New in my collections are the decorations awarded to the personal lackey of Queen-Mother Emma of the Netherlands, his ceremonial sword, documents and photo's. Here are some photo's:The lackey received the following medals:Dutch - Silver wedding medal 1926Waldeck Pyrmont - Merit medal in silverLuxembourg - Civil and Military merit medal in silverBelgium - Medal for foreign subjects in bronze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 The dutch medal was awarded 775 times. Does anyone have info about the other medals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 For the Belgian one seehttp://users.skynet.be/belgianordersandmed...LIJK%20HUIS.htmnice readingGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Herr General Very nice items, err........ do you need any lacking done, medals counted, papers pressed, etc...etc....Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 It's always nice to see the little guy get his due respect!!! That's a VERY NICE set Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Thanks everyone for the comments and information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) Arrrgh ! Of course the Belgian court could NOT deliver a Flemish (= Dutch) language certificate to a Dutchman ! That "household" was just to daft ... Just curious : did you have to slay the lackey with his own sword to get at the set ? I seem to detect a spot of blood on it Kidding, of course ... Great group of medals and documents, Herr General, and congratulations on acquiring it !!!Cheers,Hendrik Edited April 5, 2007 by Hendrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I even see a belgian blooddonation medal!But could you tell us where and how you obtained this medalgroup??Surely since it's so complete with both the medals as well as the certificates.Kind regards,Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I even see a belgian blooddonation medal!Errrr... that's the Netherlands Red Cross Blood Donor Medal. It was awarded from 1971 to 1977. Because of that I don't think it belongs to this group.Ch.,Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 I think that the blooddonor medal belonged to the wife! Jacky, I bought this group from an antiek dealer.I emailed a contact at the Royal house Archive. Maybe he has some info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Oh A dutch red cross medal, well it looks almost the same as the belgian medal.And I know only the belgian medal, which are still awarded now, if I'm correct.But thanks for correcting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Oh A dutch red cross medal, well it looks almost the same as the belgian medal.And I know only the belgian medal, which are still awarded now, if I'm correct.But thanks for correcting me.No problemo :-)Herr General, can you please post a larger scan of the obverse and reverse of the table medal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 7, 2007 Author Share Posted April 7, 2007 Hi Erik,Ik wil make a scan in a few minutes. (I have to boot another computer for that!) I will also scan the documents.The table medal is for the "Nationaal fonds voor bijzondere nooden" and it show the Ridderzaal on the front. On the back it says "Tentoonstelling 1938 met dank aan C. H. Beekes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Thanks!Always love the 'side rubble' :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 The dutch medal was awarded 775 times. Does anyone have info about the other medals?Hello,the Waldeck Silver Merit Medal was altogether awarded 5422 times.You can deduct around 4200 with swords - that makes 1222 for the civil version.greetingseitze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 But I'm wondering about why he didn't get any houseorder medal....Nowadays, since 1969, the order of loyalty and merit/service is awarded in two grades for 25 and 40 years of service.But then, they must have had something else to get from the royal house....perhaps, Eric could learn us more about now and then within the house-order.........???Kind regards,Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 But I'm wondering about why he didn't get any houseorder medal....Nowadays, since 1969, the order of loyalty and merit/service is awarded in two grades for 25 and 40 years of service.But then, they must have had something else to get from the royal house....perhaps, Eric could learn us more about now and then within the house-order.........???Kind regards,Jacky1926-1938 is only twelve years. I still haven't found out more about Beekes, but if he served less than 25 years he couldn't even qualify for a bronze medal of honour in the Family Order of Orange. For a lackey he would have gotten the silver cross of merit (now the order of loyalty and merit in silver) at 25 years of service, the bronze medal of honour if he had quit before 40 years of service. At 40 years of service he would have received the gold cross of merit and leaving after 40 years would have gotten him either the bronze of silver medal of merit. Let's not forget: he was only the lackey of the Queen-Mother (who died 1934) and later on he was just a mere foot lackey with the royal household. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 Thanks for the comments, I also think that he served to short for any other medals/decorations.Here's Beekes in the back (left person) (during a visit to Valkenberg in 1923 )Does anyone know when he got the medal from Luxembourg? Was there a state visit in those years? I have no documents about this medal. Erik, do you know where I could find the KB about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Thanks for the comments, I also think that he served to short for any other medals/decorations.Here's Beekes in the back (left person) (during a visit to Valkenberg in 1923 )Does anyone know when he got the medal from Luxembourg? Was there a state visit in those years? I have no documents about this medal. Erik, do you know where I could find the KB about this?Unfortunately I have no clue. Maybe he didn't ask permission to accept and wear the decoration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 But I'm wondering about why he didn't get any houseorder medal....Nowadays, since 1969, the order of loyalty and merit/service is awarded in two grades for 25 and 40 years of service.But then, they must have had something else to get from the royal house....perhaps, Eric could learn us more about now and then within the house-order.........???Kind regards,JackyFrom what I can see now he served from 1908 (photo taken as a lackey on age 28) untill 1938 (received the Belgium medal for servants of foreign courts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 19, 2007 Author Share Posted April 19, 2007 The Royal House Archive told me that Beekes served from 1901 untill 1934. After the dead of the Queen Mother several servants received the House Order, beekes wasn't among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 The Royal House Archive told me that Beekes served from 1901 untill 1934. After the dead of the Queen Mother several servants received the House Order, beekes wasn't among them.What I find strange is the fact that he got the Belgium award 4 years after his retirement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 Is there a register or archive about the Waldeck Pyrmont - Merit medal in silver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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