Robert Noss Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Got these two large scale photos, very nice resolution, these big size photos.But - are these bavarians ? And what regiment ?The 2nd one is even better in details:Thanks for looking, any infos are welcome.Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Hello Robert:These are Prussians in my opinion. Notice the drum hanger which is a Prussian eagle.I'm not sure of the unit. Perhaps some of our uniform specialists can make out the cipher on the epaulettes.Best regards,"SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Robert, not a leib regiment possibly "2.Badishes Grenadier-regiment Kaiser Wilhelm 1. Nr 110" but I standby to be corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Noss Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 I made some better scans now, with the scanner and not the digi-cam. The photos have twice the size of a scanner but it worksAnd one of the TambourMaybe these are a bit better for identificationRobert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Robert, still think it is 110th but on second thoughts it could also be 7th Grenadier Regt. but definately not Leib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Hi Robert,Beautiful details in the picture. I agree with Dante: Baden 110 Grenadiers (could not be the 7th Grenadier Rgt - they wore litzen on their collars)Regards, Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Here is a picture of some Baden Leib-Grenadiere of the 109 Regiment (note the litzen and the crown w/o the cypher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Here is a picture of some Baden Leib-Grenadiere of the 109 Regiment (note the litzen and the crown w/o the cypher)And a colour photo of the Bavarian leib (still looking for the correct pickelhaube, but hopefully the white belt is on the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Very nice tunic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hello again everyone:I am definately out of my area of expertise on this one.However, I still say definately Prussian (not Baden, not Bavaria). The Schulterklappen look like they are for enlisted men of the Grenadier-Regt. K?nig Friedrich Wilhelm I. (2. Ostpreu?isches) Nr. 3 K?nigsberg. I am rather certain about this now after finding an example in a catalogue.Where are our Prussian uniform experts to verify this?Best regards,"SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Hello again everyone:I am definately out of my area of expertise on this one.However, I still say definately Prussian (not Baden, not Bavaria). The Schulterklappen look like they are for enlisted men of the Grenadier-Regt. K?nig Friedrich Wilhelm I. (2. Ostpreu?isches) Nr. 3 K?nigsberg. I am rather certain about this now after finding an example in a catalogue.Where are our Prussian uniform experts to verify this?Best regards,"SPM"SMP I disagree (it rhymes!) have a look at the bottom Kokades on the Feldm?tzen, it is definatley not the Prussian colors (black - white - black), but it could be the Baden colors (yellow - red - yellow), I think that one can just see the Baden griffin on the helmet of the drummer in the first picture. Perhaps a closeup would solve thisRegards, Hardy Edited May 17, 2007 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hello Hardy:I claim ignorance (my default setting) regarding being able to tell what color the Kokades are. I frankly can't see the Griffen of Baden on any of the helmets.I do also see however PRUSSIAN eagles on the bugles too. Did the Music Korps troops of Baden not have their own types of bugles and drum hangers?Best regards,"SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hello Hardy:I claim ignorance (my default setting) regarding being able to tell what color the Kokades are. I frankly can't see the Griffen of Baden on any of the helmets.I do also see however PRUSSIAN eagles on the bugles too. Did the Music Korps troops of Baden not have their own types of bugles and drum hangers?Best regards,"SPM"I believe they used the Prussian eagle hangers - Baden Regiments also used Prussian Belt BucklesRegards, Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hello again:I think that this is what we are looking at?"SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hello again:I think that this is what we are looking at?"SPM"Yes that is the right shoulder board and it belongs to the 110 Baden Regimentsee the straps here: http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/straps.htmthe Grenadier-Regt. Kronprinz (1.Ostpreu?isches) Nr.1 had Litzen on their tunics and the shoulder board was slightly different, showing FR III under the crownRegards, Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Robert, could you scan in a close-up of this drummers helmet?Regards, Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Noss Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Here is the drummer in better details.The eagles on the bugles look prussian, that's right.Thanks a lot so far for this discussion, very eduacating for me.Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi Robert, here is the Standarte of the 110erand the German site of the Traditionsverein: http://www.kaisergrenadiere.de.vu/Regards, Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Hello again Hardy:Thank you for your patience and the excellent information! Now I see the Griffen of Baden on the helmet. Excellent information regarding the shoulder boards, and a superb link for information regarding the 110th! I have learned a lot from the analysis of these photos.Best regards,"SPM" Edited May 17, 2007 by Schie?platzmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Hi SPM,forget about it, I'm just returning the favour. You helped me out a couple of times already. Here is one: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17943&hl=spmAll the Best, Hardy Edited May 17, 2007 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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