Naxos Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 My question: Could a Feldwebelleutnant from Baden be awarded the Ritterkreuz des Ordens vom Z?hringer L?wen 2.Kl. or would he be awarded with a NCO equivalent?Regards, Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I can't remember ever seeing one on the published roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Feldwebelleutnant sounds like the highest NCO rank, and those were awarded the Z?hringer merit cross an the ribbon of the Karl Friedrich merit order. The order itself was a officer's only ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Well a Feldwebelleutnant's title of rank may have sounded like an NCO but they were members of the corps of Landwehr officers. To quote from the Kriegs-Besoldungs-Vorschrift:"The Feldwebelleutnants belong to the class of subaltern officers in the rank of Leutnant, whom they rank after."RegardsGlenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) If you were a Feldwebel-Leutnant d.L. or d.Lst., but your civilian job was considered Leutnant-equivalent, could you receive the Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern in the latter capacity?There are a number of Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern to civilians called up in these Beamten capacities - Bausekret?r, Eisenbahnsekret?r, Feldpostsekret?r, Werkst?ttevorsteher, etc. However, the rolls for the Verdienstkreuz des Orden vom Z?hringer L?wens am Bande des MKFVOs, where most recipients are Feldwebel-Leutnante, also show a number of officials in these grades - Bausekret?r, Eisenbahnsekret?r, etc. Would your civilian status affect your military one, or vice versa? Thus a railroad station official who was a Lt. d.L. but was mobilized as an Eisenbahnsekret?r would get the order, while a railroad station official who was a Feldw-Lt. d.L. and was mobilized as an Eisenbahnsekret?r would get the merit cross. They are both Eisenbahnsekret?re, but one was considered a Leutnant-equivalent and the other a Feldwebelleutnant-equivalent. Edited June 22, 2007 by Dave Danner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted June 22, 2007 Author Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) So, it is a question of Class rather then Merit. The German Army was short on Subalterns during the war so they created Ersatz-Leutnante id est, Feldwebelleutnante. This way they could promote proven Vizefeldwebel to Feldwebelleutnant and use them in the Role of Kompanief?hrer without giving them the rights or the full status of the Officer class. "Old Boys' Club" Regards, Hardy Edited June 22, 2007 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambolini Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hi,I always understood that the rank under discussion in this thread was the equivalent of what in most armies is a warrant officer.Regards,Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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