Peter C Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 There seems to many variations to these badges and I know that they are highly faked.I am trying to learn what type of pin set ups are the known originals and what type are the known fakes.I have a couple of pics with what looks like the same badge but with differnt pin set ups and would appreciate any feed back regarding which set up is a known original.From what I have seen many originals appear to have the double wire pin like the Weitze example shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 i have not seen the pin configuration as on the exampleon the right before (which certainly does not mean it'snot original), but i have seen a fair number of these.i'd like to see the obverses if you could post them.thanks!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 I've seen both types of pin and am not aware of any fakes.These are quite common and until very recently weren't worth much-- not that that ever affects what does and doesn' get faked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Hallo Gentlemen,Must say I have to agree with Rick on these, I have seen both pin types, and slight variations in thereturning defeated soldier motiff, which I put down to Maker variation rather than any attempt at faking.These were not officialy issued but, had to be purchased by the returned veterans from a veterans association. Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter C Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share Posted June 24, 2007 Thankyou for the feed back on the badges.Here are the pictures of the obverse.RegardsPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter C Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share Posted June 24, 2007 And the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter C Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share Posted June 24, 2007 Looking at the obverses the badge from Weitze does appear to have much better details of the soldier. RegardsPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 These are very well made. The original as a set is quite hard to find and very impressive with the miniature, the box and the rather large (A-4) document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 A boxed example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffken Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Mine came boxed (just like the previous example), and has the double wire pin. Unfortunately, I don't have the miniature, but do have the documents (sorry to take this off-topic, but thought you might like to see them):First, the letter from Gen-Maj Puder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffken Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Next, the letter from the dealer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffken Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Next, the advertisement showing--as Kevin pointed out--the nominal cost of DM 6,75, marked by the checkmark in the lower right margin: (sorry for the small size--I couldn't scale it larger to fit here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffken Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 And lastly, as Stogie pointed out, the large A4 Urkunde to the same man in the second to last post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter C Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 AgainThankyou every one for replying to me questions, some nice information that I wasn't really expecting. RegardsPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Any period photos of these being worn?Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 See here for a copy,http://www.germanmedals.biz/catalog/produc...products_id=235Regards,Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Note the date on the letter....the SA rEservists were busy putting them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 See here for a copy,http://www.germanmedals.biz/catalog/produc...products_id=235Regards,PeteHallo Pete, thanks for posting the link to this site, more repros to be added to the Repro / Fake folder.In my opinion the German Field Honour Cross he has is a poor cast copy of the original, the soldier not being to well defined and to the rear the Maker info looks like a poor attempt at a copy, and the pin seems to be bent out of shape, but, probably good enough to fool a novice though! Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Thanks for posting up the document set. I think the scans I was searching for were from an older computer that crashed. I lost much of my archives about 5 years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Jr. Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Here is mine for reference.Greetings,Douglas.Pic-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Jr. Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 pic-02Soldier detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Jr. Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 pic 03Back with the pin opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Jr. Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 pic 04 - last onewith the pin closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter C Posted June 26, 2007 Author Share Posted June 26, 2007 DouglasThanks for the pics of your badge.This pin / hinge arrangement is what I think is shown in Detlev's catalogue and it is good to get some nice close up's like you have posted.RegardsPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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