German Field Honour Cross

[Peter C]

There seems to many variations to these badges and I know that they are highly faked.

I am trying to learn what type of pin set ups are the known originals and what type are the known fakes.

I have a couple of pics with what looks like the same badge but with differnt pin set ups and would appreciate any feed back regarding which set up is a known original.

From what I have seen many originals appear to have the double wire pin like the Weitze example shown.

[joe campbell]

i have not seen the pin configuration as on the example

on the right before (which certainly does not mean it's

not original), but i have seen a fair number of these.

i'd like to see the obverses if you could post them.

thanks!

joe

[Guest Rick Research]

I've seen both types of pin and am not aware of any fakes.

These are quite common and until very recently weren't worth much-- not that that ever affects what does and doesn' get faked.

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Gentlemen,

Must say I have to agree with Rick on these, I have seen both pin types, and slight variations in the

returning defeated soldier motiff, which I put down to Maker variation rather than any attempt at faking.

These were not officialy issued but, had to be purchased by the returned veterans from a veterans association.

Kevin in Deva.

[Peter C]

Thankyou for the feed back on the badges.

Here are the pictures of the obverse.

Regards

Peter

[Peter C]

And the other

[Peter C]

Looking at the obverses the badge from Weitze does appear to have much better details of the soldier.

Regards

Peter

[Stogieman]

These are very well made. The original as a set is quite hard to find and very impressive with the miniature, the box and the rather large (A-4) document.

[Stogieman]

A boxed example:

[Gaffken]

Mine came boxed (just like the previous example), and has the double wire pin. Unfortunately, I don't have the miniature, but do have the documents (sorry to take this off-topic, but thought you might like to see them):

First, the letter from Gen-Maj Puder:

[Gaffken]

Next, the letter from the dealer:

[Gaffken]

Next, the advertisement showing--as Kevin pointed out--the nominal cost of DM 6,75, marked by the checkmark in the lower right margin:

(sorry for the small size--I couldn't scale it larger to fit here)

[Gaffken]

And lastly, as Stogie pointed out, the large A4 Urkunde to the same man in the second to last post above.

[Peter C]

Again

Thankyou every one for replying to me questions, some nice information that I wasn't really expecting.

Regards

Peter

[Scott]

Any period photos of these being worn?

Scott

[Wood]

See here for a copy,

http://www.germanmedals.biz/catalog/produc...products_id=235

Regards,

Pete

[Ulsterman]

Note the date on the letter....the SA rEservists were busy putting them on.

[Kev in Deva]

See here for a copy,

http://www.germanmedals.biz/catalog/produc...products_id=235

Regards,

Pete

Hallo Pete,

thanks for posting the link to this site, more repros to be added to the Repro / Fake folder.

In my opinion the German Field Honour Cross he has is a poor cast copy of the original, the soldier not being to well defined and to the rear the Maker info looks like a poor attempt at a copy, and the pin seems to be bent out of shape, but, probably good enough to fool a novice though!

Kevin in Deva

[Stogieman]

Thanks for posting up the document set. I think the scans I was searching for were from an older computer that crashed. I lost much of my archives about 5 years back.

[Douglas Jr.]

Here is mine for reference.

Greetings,

Douglas.

Pic-01

[Douglas Jr.]

pic-02

Soldier detail.

[Douglas Jr.]

pic 03

Back with the pin opened.

[Douglas Jr.]

pic 04 - last one

with the pin closed.

[Peter C]

Douglas

Thanks for the pics of your badge.

This pin / hinge arrangement is what I think is shown in Detlev's catalogue and it is good to get some nice close up's like you have posted.

Regards

Peter