Condor Legion Tank Badge

[mmiller]

Gentlemen,

I thought I would try stirring up some dust, things seem a little slow. Here is my offering. Please post your CLTB. I think we will have 3 possibilities. The rare and pretty much non-existant Portguese is one, and the second two are the German stamped versions, with differences in the wreath, tank, bones, etc.

And are either of the German badges Wernstein produced pieces?

Thanks,

Mark

[mmiller]

And the reverse.

Mark

[Robin Lumsden]

Here's mine...............

[Robin Lumsden]

The hinge arrangement now seems to be attributed to Wiedmann, rather than Wernstein.

[Robin Lumsden]

Here's a detailed picture of one in wear.

All the photos of 'in wear' badges I have seen have the 'natural' bones...........rather than the 'stick' bones in the badges posted above.

I've never seen the 'stick' bones in wear................but I'd like to!

[J Temple-West]

Mark

I'm moving this most interesting thread over to the "Spanish Civil War" section.

[mmiller]

Fine John,

Sorry, I didn't even think about putting it there. DUH!

Robin,

I guess this is a dumb question, what what exactly is the difference bewtween the 'natural' and the 'stick' bones?

Regards,

Mark

Edited July 15, 2007 by mmiller

[naoki matsumoto]

Gentlemen,

I thought I would try stirring up some dust, things seem a little slow. Here is my offering. Please post your CLTB. I think we will have 3 possibilities. The rare and pretty much non-existant Portguese is one, and the second two are the German stamped versions, with differences in the wreath, tank, bones, etc.

And are either of the German badges Wernstein produced pieces?

Thanks,

Mark

H! It's a Splendid!!! MINT piece From Japan I like "Spanien" LOVE

[mmiller]

Naoki, Konban wa!

Arigato gozaimasu and Much Thanks! (from the USA.) I always thought it was pretty 'textbook'.

Regards,

Mark

H! It's a Splendid!!! MINT piece From Japan I like "Spanien" LOVE

Edited July 15, 2007 by mmiller

[J Temple-West]

I'm with you on this one, Mark. A 'textbook' example by Wiedmann as far as I'm concerned...and in wonderful condition!

[naoki matsumoto]

Naoki, Konban wa!

Arigato gozaimasu and Much Thanks! (from the USA.) I always thought it was pretty 'textbook'.

Regards,

Mark

Let's try,looking for Nice itmes each other!!! By the way,Your Japanese is very GOOD!!!! See you again! "Mata aimasyou!!"

[Jacques]

Here's a detailed picture of one in wear.

All the photos of 'in wear' badges I have seen have the 'natural' bones...........rather than the 'stick' bones in the badges posted above.

I've never seen the 'stick' bones in wear................but I'd like to!

Hi Robin,

I will post few pics showing "stick' bones badge in wear next week. From memory, RKtr?ger BECKER worn one and may be ZUNDORF.

Could you post the entire portrait showing the badge worn ?

jacques

[Robin Lumsden]

Thanks Jacques. I'd like to see the sticks in wear.

Here's the full portrait of the other type..............

[Robin Lumsden]

I wonder if this could be the stick bones...............????..................

[Robin Lumsden]

Or this ?????....................

[Robin Lumsden]

Fine John,

Sorry, I didn't even think about putting it there. DUH!

Robin,

I guess this is a dumb question, what what exactly is the difference bewtween the 'natural' and the 'stick' bones?

Regards,

Mark

Mark.

The stick bones just look like a bunch of sticks............as on the 2 badges shown at the top of this thread!

[Robin Lumsden]

This one is definitely NOT the sticks.........................

[Robin Lumsden]

There are just so many variants of these things..................

[Robin Lumsden]

Here's a later war picture............

[Jacques]

Hi Robin,

I think posts 15, 18 show stick bones badge thus your post 14. I think I have a couple more in my files. at least the stick bones variant isn't known on LC period uniform, but only on war period Wehrmacht ones.

Which is interesting on your first pic is that we distinguish the top of the pin and what seems to be the hinge. this one looks like the repaired pin badge sold by Weitze few years ago, on which the pin makes a loop at the top.

By chance, are your pics named?

Very nice portraits you shown us, if you want to part of the 2 first ones, PM me

[Troy Tempest]

Here is one for sale at Gunbroker.com

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem....m=76860111#DESC

$988 US and Mr Detlev Niemann is mentioned as a reference for the price! Claimed to be Portugese silver badge, I don't know anything about them, but I thought someone here may have an idea about it's autheniticity?

[dond]

The only thing more suspect than the badges he sells are the COAs he sends with them. That is one minefield I'll stay out of.

[Troy Tempest]

Have you had dealings with this seller before Don? Paddy has been educating me on the value of Mr Niemann's COA, but I'm still a babe in the woods in the militaria field. The auction finishes soon, so I've kept a copy of the photo - the file is too big for the GMIC site so here is a link if anyone wants to see it:

http://www.feldpost.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1849

[Stan]

Here's my Legion Condor Panzer Badge, Portugese manufacture. I've posted it previously on GMIC.

The pin is obviously a replacement, the catch is probably original but crudely repaired with solder.

Stan

[Jacques]

here is mine