Luftwaffe W. Deumer 1st Pattern Pilots badge.

[J Temple-West]

Next up is this early, unmarked pilots badge thought, and accepted, to be by 'Deumer'.

Of all the early badges I have by this maker, this particular badge shows all the characteristics of 'Deumer' construction and also shows that 'Juncker' were involved with the company from pre-war, onwards.

So, to the obverse. Overall, not much evidence to support the theory, except certain similarities in the fletching to both wings on this badge and the 1st pattern by ?Juncker? and the styling of the chest feathers on this 1st pattern and Deumer?s 2nd pattern badges.

The wreath, although similar in style to ?Juncker?, is different, but has a definite ?Juncker? influence, IMO. It?s when we come to the reverse that all will become clear, I trust.

[J Temple-West]

Reverse.

Barrel Hinge; Typical type used by ?Juncker? on 1st pattern badges.

Pin; has the flattened surface to the top quarter, as found on most ?Deumer? badges.

[J Temple-West]

Wheel grinding to the wreath under the hinge, as found only on ?Deumer? badges.

[J Temple-West]

Rivets; typical ?Deumer?.

[J Temple-West]

The catch is the most telling characteristic. As far as I?m aware, only ?Deumer? produced a catch which has this ?hook?.

[J Temple-West]

A side by side comparison of 'Juncker' 1st/2nd patterns (top) and 'Deumer' 1st/2nd patterns (bottom).

[ERIC]

I can't add much to what you have already said John. The eagle and wreath are distinctly different from that of the Juncker 1st pattern, that is for sure. I agree as well that the reverse has a "Deumer" look about it. The catch 'hook' and the grinding under the hinge, as well as the pin flattening and rivits all have that Deumer persona. Superb badge John.

ERIC

[Reini]

Yes , whatever it is , it is superb!

Best

Kurt