J Temple-West Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Next up is this early, unmarked pilots badge thought, and accepted, to be by 'Deumer'.Of all the early badges I have by this maker, this particular badge shows all the characteristics of 'Deumer' construction and also shows that 'Juncker' were involved with the company from pre-war, onwards.So, to the obverse. Overall, not much evidence to support the theory, except certain similarities in the fletching to both wings on this badge and the 1st pattern by ?Juncker? and the styling of the chest feathers on this 1st pattern and Deumer?s 2nd pattern badges.The wreath, although similar in style to ?Juncker?, is different, but has a definite ?Juncker? influence, IMO. It?s when we come to the reverse that all will become clear, I trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 Reverse.Barrel Hinge; Typical type used by ?Juncker? on 1st pattern badges.Pin; has the flattened surface to the top quarter, as found on most ?Deumer? badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 Wheel grinding to the wreath under the hinge, as found only on ?Deumer? badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 Rivets; typical ?Deumer?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 The catch is the most telling characteristic. As far as I?m aware, only ?Deumer? produced a catch which has this ?hook?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 A side by side comparison of 'Juncker' 1st/2nd patterns (top) and 'Deumer' 1st/2nd patterns (bottom). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I can't add much to what you have already said John. The eagle and wreath are distinctly different from that of the Juncker 1st pattern, that is for sure. I agree as well that the reverse has a "Deumer" look about it. The catch 'hook' and the grinding under the hinge, as well as the pin flattening and rivits all have that Deumer persona. Superb badge John. ERIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Yes , whatever it is , it is superb!BestKurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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