Bill Garvy Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) Just received this Order of the Red Star, Nr. 886800, with its Award Book, and was wondering if I could get some additional information based on what I'll be posting.First the Red Star itself in excellent condition. . . Edited October 30, 2007 by Bill Garvy
Bill Garvy Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 This is the first Award book I have in my collection with a picture of the recipient.What is his name? What rank is he in picture?
Bill Garvy Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 Here is a scan of the stamp on the above page. What can you tell me about the stamp?
Bill Garvy Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 The next page in the Award Book lists this Red Star, and, I suspect, another, Nr. 32343. What other awards/orders are listed?
Bill Garvy Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 Here is a scan of the stamp on the above page. I suspect this might have been a long service award given it's proximity to another Red Star in my collection, Nr. 896316.As always your assistance is much appreciated, and thank you for looking!
Ferdinand Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 His name is Boris Ivanovich Olesov, his rank is Lieutenant. The stamp says "Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR".The awards in the booklet are Order of the Red Banner # 32343, Order of the Red Star # 886800 and Order of Aleksandr Nevsky # 29602.Privileges for the Red Banner started on 1 February 1942 and the booklet was filled in on 20 June 1942. The Red Star and Nevsky were added later.Your Red Ster could be a 3 November 1944 long service award.Auke
Guest Rick Research Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 EXCELLENT wartime book! Ferdinand!He well may be an NKVD Lieutenant, as far as I can tell--1) no metallic braid around the collar tabs or branch device at the back end2) not a technical branch, since the piping and the tab color are very close--which also makes me think not a military Commissar.3) cannot be a boring old supply officer-- I cannot imagine ANY supply officer getting a Nevsky!You want to zoom in on that photo so we can REALLY see the whole collar and cap insignia (colored cloth star behind the metal one) clearly?I would STRONGLY suggest getting research not only on this Red Star (which may well be a "real" one in the long service range, given his low rank) but also the citations for BOTH the original 1942 Red Star AND the 1945 Nevsky. Adding the career details to the surviving Red Star will be well worth it. We may all be amazed.
Stogieman Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 A rather interesting book! Any idea where the other 2 awards are??
Bill Garvy Posted October 30, 2007 Author Posted October 30, 2007 I haven't a clue where his other awards could be, but I'm looking. Research is pending, and, as you requested, here is the close-up Lieutenant Boris Ivanovich Olesov's picture, which is really quite striking. . .Rick, is anything else discernable? I appreciate being able to see at all this through your eyes in a manner of speaking. . .
Guest Rick Research Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 OK, NO cloth star behind the metal one on his cap. The collar tabs MAY be the subdued tunic-colored field type-- though he appears to still be wearing enamel rank cubes, not painted ones.Can't see whether his pockets are pleated (state security) or plain (army).He's either INFANTRY in an odd and unusual combination of subdued insignia or NKVD (wine red and brick red tabs). The tabs look like the same color as the collar piping, so I'm still inclined towards NKVD. Anybody (Dave?) ever seen a mere infantry Lieutenant with an EARLY wartime issued Orders Book with photo? That's why I suspect he was NKVD and this is a "special" issue.This ought to be some nifty research when it comes back.
Bill Garvy Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) Received the translations, and am still waiting for the copies of the original documents. I thought I would post what I had, and will post the copies whence they arrive. . .AWARD CITATION1. First, middle and last names OLESOV Boris Ivanovich2. Rank Guards Captain3. Position, unit Commander assistant of 130th Lettish operational department on corps commander radio station of 130th Lettish riflemen. Is recommended for the order of the Red Star4. Year of birth 19205. Nationality Russian6. Party membership CPSU(B) candidate member, since September 1944, card #75703357. Participation in the civil war and other military actions aimed at the defense of the USSR (where and when) During the Patriotic war under Moscow since December 1941 till January 1942. North-Western Front ? since August 1942 till October 1943. 2nd Popular Front - since April 1944 up till now. 8. Wounds or contusions received in Patriotic war (date, month, year of wounds, location at present) Seriously wounded on December 31,1941under Moscow. 9. In the Red Army since 1940 10. Drafted by what district military commissariat Tsesensky city military commissariat, Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic.11. Previous awards Order of the Red Banner and For the Defense of Moscow medal. /Order of the Red Banner on May 20, 1942/ 12. Permanent home address (of the prospective awardee or his family) Riga seaside, Iriedaine station. Brief description of personal feat or meritsBeing a corps commander assistant at radio station Captain Olesov in severe conditions of the attack managed to promote units control by radio /in the periods of wire communication absence/.Besides he carried out different tasks of the command in the army. Deserves the government award the Order of the Red Star. Commander of the staff operational department of 130th Lettish rifle corps: Guards Lieutenant Colonel (signed) /GALIMOV/October 14, 1944Agree: Corps staff commanderColonel (signed) /Buman/October 14, 1944 ? (unreadable) by order of the Red Star ? ? ? Edited March 5, 2008 by Bill Garvy
Bill Garvy Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Record card Order book No 0877371. Last name: OLESOV2. First, middle names: Boris Ivanovich3. Military rank: Guards Major 4. Sex: Male5. Year of birth: 1920 6. Place of birth: Moscow7. Party membership since: C.P.S.U.(B) member since 1942 8. Education: incomplete secondary9. Nationality: Russian10. In the Red Army since: 1940 11. Place of service (name of the unit) and position occupied when awarded: commander assistant of 130th Lettish operational department of rifle corps 12. Current place of service and position: second in command of Guards rifle training battalion of 43rd Guards Lettish rifle division 13. Home address of the awardee: Riga, 55 Terbatas, flat 28 14. Record of previous awardsNames of orders, medals Their numbers Document numbers Ground for awardChecked Order of the Red Banner 32343 Order book № 087737 Order of the Red Star 886800 Temp./Certif.№ 255901 Order to 22nd Army № 0207/N of October 19, 1944? Order number and date are not indicated Signature of awardee (signed) ________________________ Data correctness and signature of awardeeattested by: Head of the personnel department, 43rd Guards Lettish rifle division Guards Major of executive department (signed) /Zhigadlo/ October 04, 1946 Last name: OLESOV First name: Boris Middle name: Ivanovich Military rank: Lieutenant Position and name of the unit: platoon leader commander of foot reconnaissance, 122nd rifle regiment of 291st Lettish rifle divisionAwardedOrder or medal Date of Decree of the USSR Supreme Council Presidium Ground for awardOrder of the Red Banner Order № 011 of January 31, 1942 For the battles against German fascismPERISHED Home address: No addressWounded ? Western frontBiographical particulars:1. Year of birth ? 19202. Place of birth3. Party membership4. Nationality - Russian Awards presented: OrderMedal Date of awarding Place of awarding №№ of ordermedal №№ of order documentsOrder of the Red Banner July 20, 1942 Checkpoint of 201st Lettish rifle division 323430 87737Other notes: Submitted a petition for presentation of the award in Ivanovskaya region. June 14, 1942
Bill Garvy Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) 1. Last name, first name, patronymic OLESOV BORIS IVANOVICH A-4712312. Born on May 01, 1920 3. Nationality Russian4. What languages, but the native one, knows, to what extent Russian None 13. Military rank conferred Year and date Order No (PCD)5. Place of birth Moscow Senior Lieutenant October 30, 1942 № 0550 II A Captain August 12, 1943 № 0669 North-Western Front6. Party membership Non-party Major December 27, 1944 № 0766 2nd Baltic Front 14. Participation in campaigns (where and against whom)Western FrontNorth-Western Front 2nd Baltic Front DateDec. 05, 1941 ? Dec. 31, 1941 Sept. 15, 1942 ? Oct. 1943March 02, 1944 ? May 09, 19457. Social position and social origin Worker 8. Occupation (profession) Metalworker 15. Wounds and contusions receivedHeavy wound on December 31, 19419. Marital status (family composition and age) Married Wife ? Olesova, 1922 year of birth, mother Olesova E.M. 16. Government awardsRed Banner order, 1942 Red Star order, 1944For Defense of Moscow medal, 1944For the Victory Over Germany medal, 194510. Civil education (names of educational institutions) 6 grades of school in Riga Data17. State of healthHealthy 1935 11. Military education:a) in the old army Noneb) in the Soviet Army (graduation mark) Riga, infantry military college?Vystrel? courses from October, 1943 till March, 1944 November, 1940;August, 194121. OLESOV Boris Ivanovich 30. Registed (where)Baltic Military District Riga, Kirovsky Military commissariat 22. Major, Command staff23. Combat arm: Infantry24. Group Senior, reserve of 1st rank25. Registered till December 31, 1980 12. Party education - None 27. Place of service and position (or kind of activity, besides the military register) 33. Service in the White and foreign armiesN/A 28. Home addressRiga, 55 Terbatas, flat 28 34. Special marksMilitary card series AK No 45128 of August 12, 1950 Photo Enrolled on service in the Soviet Army, November 18, 1940 Place of unit Position Year Month and day By whose order NoInfantry military college, Riga Cadet 1940 November, 18 122nd rifle regiment, 201st Lettish rifle division Platoon leader commander of foot reconnaissance 1941 August At the hospital Under treatment due to wound 1941 December, 31 I detached ? ? , rifle regiment Rifle platoon leader commander 1942 March, 10 Detached reconnaissance company of 43rd Guards Lettish rifle division of North-Western Front Deputy company commander 1942 September, 15 43rd Guards Lettish rifle division Divisional commander adjutant 1942 November, 15 43rd Guards rifle division № 045?Vystrel? courses of the detached command battalion Hearer 1943 October, 10 Detached training rifle battalion of 43rd Guards Lettish rifle division Deputy battalion commander 1944 March, 02 43rd Guards rifle division № 010Staff of 130th Lettish rifle corps, 2nd Baltic Front Commander assistant of operational department at corps commander radio station 1944 July, 15 22nd Army № 02125th Guards rifle regiment, 43rd Guards Lettish rifle division of the Baltic Military District Rifle battalion commander 1945 November, 07 Baltic Military District № 0114Detached guards training rifle battalion of 43rd Guards Lettish rifle division, Riga, Baltic Military District Deputy battalion commander 1946 July, 26 Baltic Military District № 01149Sergeant staff team school of 29th detached Guards Lettish Riga brigade. Riga. Baltic Military District Deputy school commander 1947 April, 01 Baltic Military District № 0330 of March 29, 1047 Transferred to the reserve under clause 43 it. ?б? , under Ministry of War order № 01176 of August 15, 1950 Military commissar, Lieutenant Colonel (signed) /?/Head of 3rd unit of Kirovsky district military commissariat Major of executive department (signed) Kazakov Edited March 5, 2008 by Bill Garvy
Bryan Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Interesting research! Thanks for sharing it. It seems the Nevsky order was added to the order book.
Guest Rick Research Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 I'd like to see scans of the original Russian pages, since there is some quite awkward, incorrect, and conflicting information above that almost sound like Babelfisch rather than a human brain.Though sometimes my human brain is not great prize....
Bill Garvy Posted March 7, 2008 Author Posted March 7, 2008 Thanks, Rick, I certainly will post the original Russina documents when they arrive. Usually I receive them first and then the translations, but this time it was the other way around. By the way, I am still waiting. . .
Belaruski Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 The collar tabs are definately 1941 subdued ones. There is a clear lack of piping. As for enameled insignia I have seen this in other photo's and own some green enameled squares which were used on subdued patches. I have also heard of red squares on the green patches when there were no green squares to issue. In 1941/2 all sorts of breaches of uniform regulations were allowed by neccesity.
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