Siam/Thailand, Order White Elephant when 1st type ? when 2nd type?

[lilo]

Hello All,

I understand that there are (at least ??) 2 types of Siam/Thailand Order of the Elephant (founded in 1861).

Please see the two photos attached below.: 1st type on the left; 2nd type on the right.

That I would like to know is in what ?Time-Frame? (from/to) can be posted the 1^st type and obviously also the 2^nd type.

A knowledge of when approx. the Order changed from type 1 to type 2 would help very much.

All the Best

Lilo

Edited January 7, 2008 by lilo

[Hugh]

Hello All,

I understand that there are (at least ??) 2 types of Siam/Thailand Order of the Elephant (founded in 1861).

Please see the two photos attached below.: 1st type on the left; 2nd type on the right.

That I would like to know is in what "Time-Frame" (from/to) can be posted the 1^st type and obviously also the 2^nd type.

A knowledge of when approx. the Order changed from type 1 to type 2 would help very much.

All the Best

Lilo

Don't really know, but I've got one of each. The one on the right is the newer one, as I think you know, and i got mine in Bangkok in the 1980's. The other is in an old looking case that I'd guess dates back before World War II. I suppose it's conceivable that the change was made at the time of the accession of the current king Bhumibol (around 1941?), but that's just speculation. Maybe my friend in Bangkok can dig up something.

[lilo]

Maybe my friend in Bangkok can dig up something.

Hi Hugh,

Thank you for the answer.

Yes, let us informed with what your friend think.

Regards

Lilo

[Micke]

On ‎07‎/‎01‎/‎2008 at 20:08, lilo said:

Hello All,

I understand that there are (at least ??) 2 types of Siam/Thailand Order of the Elephant (founded in 1861).

Please see the two photos attached below.: 1st type on the left; 2nd type on the right.

That I would like to know is in what ?Time-Frame? (from/to) can be posted the 1^st type and obviously also the 2^nd type.

A knowledge of when approx. the Order changed from type 1 to type 2 would help very much.

All the Best

Lilo

 

 

The type 1 are before 1909. The act of 1909 changed the appearance of the order. Both the order of the white elephand and the order of the crown to type 2.  

[lilo]

Hi Micke,

Thank you for the answer.

Regards

Lilo

[1812 Overture]

On 10/12/2018 at 17:34, Micke said:

The type 1 are before 1909. The act of 1909 changed the appearance of the order. Both the order of the white elephand and the order of the crown to type 2.  

Give you two photos you might like

[lilo]

Hi 1812 Overture,  Much Appreciated !

ATB

Lilo