Riley1965 Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 Gentlemen,I have these shoulderboards that are supposed to be from the Soviet Medical Service. There is some question as to what they really are. The buttons are not important because they can be replaced. Basically, I'm asking for your opinions as to what they really are. Doc
Riley1965 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Posted February 3, 2008 Gentlemen,I have these shoulderboards that are supposed to be from the Soviet Medical Service. There is some question as to what they really are. The buttons are not important because they can be replaced. Basically, I'm asking for your opinions as to what they really are. Doc
Ed_Haynes Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 The whole uniform world seems very different from the medal world, Doc. More clashing national egos and personal interpretations and less solid evidence (at least in English).
Riley1965 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Posted February 3, 2008 Doc,Are the star embroidered?MarcMarc,No they are not embroidered. Just the standard stars. Ed, that seems to go with the territory. I just ordered a $79 book on Soviet Uniforms and insignia. Maybe it will shed light on these. Doc
Guest Rick Research Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 The white ones are for white SHIRTS. There may very well be a date code stamped in with a maker logo on the tongue if they are late enough.... that would help determine what exactly they are.White shirts would be either civil police (militia) or you've got Marines (naval infantry). I've never seen medical devices on either, but presumably they MUST have had such personnel.The others-- please show the BOTTOMS. Since those are 6 sided, they should be detachable. Is that UNDERLAY "Waffenfarbe" or overcoat color material sticking out around the edges? To BE 6 sided boards and not chopped sew on 4 suded ones, that SHOULD be a branch underlay.... and I can't tell what the color is.Medical undrrlay would be bright GREEN with red top stripes, back in the days of two colors. They were also then NARROWER than "normal" boards... are the Lt pair THINNER than the Major's?
Riley1965 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Posted February 3, 2008 Hello Rick,Here are the backs of the shoulderboards. The LT's are narrower and the backing is sticking out around the edges. There is a number 145 on the white boards and 165 on the tongue of the Lt's boards. Doc
Guest Rick Research Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 OK, no useful clues underneath. The Major level could be Marines, any period-- but look late (1980s-ish) OR civil police (Militia) 1958-68 (after that, same on shirts, but with Soviet seal police emblems near the buttons).I am still not sure what the COLOR and MATERIAL on the Lt boards is supposed to be.Narrow boards for support services were cancelled in March 1958, but that is when unpiped boards first came in, so I'm at a loss. If the underlay material is basically overcoat gray color, that suggests osmething somehow from the late 1950s.
Riley1965 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Posted February 3, 2008 Rick,The LT's boards are a Blue-Grey (?) over a Charcoal Grey (?). That's the best description of the colors that I can come up with. Thanks for the ID on the Major's boards. Doc
Riley1965 Posted February 8, 2008 Author Posted February 8, 2008 Sergey,Are you saying that they are Militia? Doc
Lapa Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 Sergey,Are you saying that they are Militia? Doc Doc,That is what I suspect too: the gray ones are very similar to Police boards.Marc
Riley1965 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Posted February 10, 2008 Doc,That is what I suspect too: the gray ones are very similar to Police boards.MarcSergey & Marc,Thank You!!! Is there a book that covers Militia shoulderboards? Doc
Lapa Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 Sergey & Marc,Thank You!!! Is there a book that covers Militia shoulderboards? Doc Doc,Yes there is: History of Russian Uniform - Soviet Police 1918-1991 by Leonid Tokar.Good thing that you asked, I opened my copy and found your white boards: Officer's shirt boards, introduced by Prikaz MVD CCCP 238 on 24/8/1972 (as far as I know, the model remained the same until the end of the USSR).MarcPS: let me know if you need a copy of the book.
Sergey Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 Doc,That is what I suspect too: the gray ones are very similar to Police boards.Marc+ 1Sergey.
Riley1965 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Posted February 10, 2008 Doc,Yes there is: History of Russian Uniform - Soviet Police 1918-1991 by Leonid Tokar.Good thing that you asked, I opened my copy and found your white boards: Officer's shirt boards, introduced by Prikaz MVD CCCP 238 on 24/8/1972 (as far as I know, the model remained the same until the end of the USSR).MarcPS: let me know if you need a copy of the book.Marc, Thanks again my friend!!! Yes a copy of the book would be GREAT PLEASE PM the details to me.Sergey,Thanks too my friend!!! Doc
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