Legion Condor Panzer badge

[Stan]

Here is another shot of the catch which is identical to the catch on Lechner's badge shown in post#65 and Che's post # 91. A pity that it is covered in solder-I will probably get it fixed properly.

Stan

Here's the missing photo!

[CHE]

Stan, make a photos of these parts of a sign without an inclination, please.

[Stan]

Stan, make a photos of these parts of a sign without an inclination, please.

Che,

Here are the photos.

Stan

[CHE]

Thanks for photos, Stan.

The first type of Condor Legion Tank Badges never had catch, Stans photos confirm my assumption.

[Stan]

Thanks for photos, Stan.

The first type of Condor Legion Tank Badges never had catch, Stans photos confirm my assumption.

Che,

You could well be correct. Perhaps that is the reason we see them sewn onto the uniforms.

Stan

[Jacques]

Here is a period press photo of this badge. It is dated 3.8.39

[CHE]

Here is a period press photo of this badge. It is dated 3.8.39

It is a reverse ?

[Jacques]

It is a reverse ?

Hi CHE,

unfortunatly not.

jacques

[Guest Brian von Etzel]

Jacques,

Herewith a photo of the top part of the badge where the pin might originally have been located.

Stan

It seems convincing there was a hinge there once! Also the spots are so small for attachment it looks like this is why they fell off so easily.

[Sal Williams]

Che, it seems to me that you can see where a hinge was. Why do you think these were made without pins? I don't see good evidence for that theory.

Best, Sal

[Guest Brian von Etzel]

That's just plain wrong. Badge made without pin, I don't believe it for a minute.

[Steve K.]

Jacques

That is one of the best period photographs of a LC panzer badge I've seen. Thanks for sharing it!

Cheers,

Steve

[CHE]

Che, it seems to me that you can see where a hinge was. Why do you think these were made without pins? I don't see good evidence for that theory.

Best, Sal

Hello Sal

Excuse me for silence.

My evidences again:

1. They all have a repaired attach system.

There are no identical hooks, there are no identical pins. All different. (look post #91)

You observed a sign with original attach system (not repaired) ?

2. The Stans sign never had a pin in the top part, the best evidence for that theory.

Without a trace it is impossible to remove a pin of SILVER sign, silver enters reaction with solder. (look post #103)

You could clean solder of silver sign without traces ? It is impossible, even in a small part.

3. The badges have been sewn to a uniform in early photos. (look post #88,89)

regards

CHE

[Sal Williams]

Hi Che, but not all the badges in photos are sewn on.

[CHE]

Hi Che, but not all the badges in photos are sewn on.

Yes, sure.

I think, a few tailors among the soldiers in Spain

regards

CHE

[Jacques]

Hi,

On my badge, the Hinge ist not re-soldered and looks untouched, thus the hook. Indeed, these constructions look very fragile. It could be possible, as these badges were worn permanently, the attach system broken off, and thus the badge was sewn to the uniform by the owner. It could explain that pictures shown it sewn onto the uniform, and also that variation/repairs exist.

Here are pictures of my badge. the pin could be not original but the hinge and hook are originally soldered.

[Jacques]

Hook

[CHE]

And I observed the portuguese sign with interesting not repaired attach system ... but attach system of german jewellers.

One portuguese sign and set of attach systems.

Hi,

On my badge, the Hinge ist not re-soldered and looks untouched, thus the hook. Indeed, these constructions look very fragile. It could be possible, as these badges were worn permanently, the attach system broken off, and thus the badge was sewn to the uniform by the owner. It could explain that pictures shown it sewn onto the uniform, and also that variation/repairs exist.

Here are pictures of my badge. the pin could be not original but the hinge and hook are originally soldered.

Jacques, on your sign very interesting attach system.

Please make photos without an inclination.

My theory will be not true, if will be found one more sign with attach system "Jacques".

[Jacques]

And I observed the portuguese sign with interesting not repaired attach system ... but attach system of german jewellers.

One portuguese sign and set of attach systems.

Jacques, on your sign very interesting attach system.

Please make photos without an inclination.

My theory will be not true, if will be found one more sign with attach system "Jacques".

Close up from above

[Jacques]

Hook

[CHE]

Thanks Jacques

We already discussed this sign (look posts #92,93,94)

...but sometimes repaired

regards

CHE

[Humberto Corado]

hello all,

amazing badges!!!

I am wondering if you know the history of the badge, I mean who made the design, was Hitler initiative who instituted the badge or someone else??

Thanks in advance!

Edited August 17, 2007 by Humberto Corado

[Elmar Lang]

On 26/09/2005 at 16:48, Peter J said:

 

II'd like to revive this old thread with a question: is this the piece illustrated in the old Klietmann's "Deutsche Auszeichnungen" plates' volume?

 

It looks like a very well finished piece of the so-called "Meybauer" type.

 

Any opinion?

 

All the best,

 

Enzo (E.L.)

On 26/09/2005 at 16:48, Peter J said:

 

Anyone care to comment on these images?

 

KR

Peter