Dave Danner Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) Can anyone with access to a copy of Bayerns Goldenes Ehrenbuch or Virtuti Pro Patria check these and give me their first/given names? ____ Ritter von Dreher - IR3 ____ Ritter von Bengl - IR10 ____ Ritter von Finsterlin - IR4 ____ Ritter von Goß - IR20 ____ Ritter von Schramm - IR4 ____ Ritter von Maußner - 2.FußAR, 6.FußAR ____ Ritter von Müller - 1.PBtl ____ Ritter von Mußbach - RIR12 ____ Ritter von Narr - 8.FAR ____ Ritter von Nerz - 8.FAR ____ Ritter von Neubert - JBtl1 ____ Ritter von Rudolph (supposedly stricken from the MMJO roles in 1926) ____ Ritter von Sailer - IR21 Thanks in advance! Edited November 1, 2023 by Dave Danner fix diacritics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Dreher=PaulBengel=JosephFinsterlin=LudwigSchramm=WilhelmMaussner=JosephMuller=MaximillianMussbach=HeinrichRudolph=LudwigSailor=GustavNeubert=HansDo not have Narr, Nerz or Goss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Goss = FranzNerz = LotharSorry, nothing on Narr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 There was a Paul Narr dR in BFAR 6 before the war but not an MMJO winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) Thanks everyone. Oddly, I already had Narr. He is Gottfried Ritter von Narr. He was a Leutnant with 8. Feldartillerie-Regiment Prinz Heinrich von Preußen, assigned to Kampffl.Sch. OHL I, and killed in action on 18 October 1917 at Valenciennes. He is buried in Frasnoy (Nord) cemetery. He was born on 31 March 1893 in Würzburg. Given all of O'Connor's work, it's odd that not only could an MMJO Knight disappear into the woodwork, but that an aviator MMJO Knight could. If he is not on your list, I see three possibilities: (i) the lists are incomplete, (ii) he was stricken from the rolls or (iii) the Ehren-Rangliste incorrectly lists him as "Ritter von". Edited November 1, 2023 by Dave Danner fix diacritics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) Also, there is apparently another Ritter von Müller besides the aviator Max. This one was a Leutnant in 1. Pionier-Bataillon and survived the war. Edited November 1, 2023 by Dave Danner fix diacritic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) FWIW, he is given in the Zickerick listing as compiled by von Eberhardt as just Ltn. Gottfried Narr, (not Ritter von). R. Edited September 29, 2005 by Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Gottfried Narr was most assuredly NOT an MMJO recipient-- in neither the "Virtuti Pro Patria" nor in the published roll.In April 1916 (page 127) he was plain old Gottfried Narr, holding MVO4X and EK2.It's simply a proofreading error in the Honor Rank List-- and part of what makes research a matter of checking, rechecking, and verifying. There are some hideous errors in Weimar Rank Lists, for instance-- one of which cost me an ID for 15 years because I checked 1926 and NOT also 1931. They goofed just like anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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