Laurence Strong Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 These are sweet. Recruiting official, Inspektor with the rank of Oberleutnant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 The reverse. different looking eyes on the tongues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 [Another awesome set!! Those are orange? They look red on my monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Got these Not sure where they fit in the big picture, obviously Heeres Beamte, a Leutnant level. If any one has any information on this I would appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hi Paul Yeah trust me Orange I will try and get a photo with the red set from Dion tommorow.Heres the reverse of the cord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hi Paul Yeah trust me Orange I will try and get a photo with the red set from Dion tommorow.Heres the reverse of the cordCongrats then on obtaining one of the rarer Heer Beamter boards!!!The second set are LSW/SHD Fuhrer boards. These two organizations were part of Luftschutz. A very nice and not commonly seen insignia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 They go along with this pair that I got in a big Luftwaffe set of boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hi PaulMany thanks for that info onto the Luft display then.The orange ones were a Winkler find with a 60% discount, will go with great my single high career tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Nice!!! Are you sure that the recruiting field had High Grade Career personnel? Maybe the tabs are for another career that used the orange nebenfarbe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwwils Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Nice!!! Are you sure that the recruiting field had High Grade Career personnel? Maybe the tabs are for another career that used the orange nebenfarbe?I think the orange color was used only by recruiting officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think the orange color was used only by recruiting officials.Hello!I agree. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share Posted April 2, 2008 Hi Here you go, took a photo with them sandwiched between my red set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 The fancy WW1 style tabs don't indicate that the official's RANK was necessarily "high," but that the level where he was assigned was-- so at Wehrkreis level or whatever. For instance, I think all pharmacists, regardless of actual rank, had the "bumpy" tabs. They were only assigned at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 The fancy WW1 style tabs don't indicate that the official's RANK was necessarily "high," but that the level where he was assigned was-- so at Wehrkreis level or whatever. For instance, I think all pharmacists, regardless of actual rank, had the "bumpy" tabs. They were only assigned at that level.Hey Rick. You are right. The tabs had nothing to do with rank. They had to do with the career grade level the man was in. However, there was a certain range of paygrades in each level. There were a total of four career grade levels. The level was determined by the amount of education/experience the man had. Lower Career Level- Feldwebel/Oberfeldwebel- Grade school education without further education/qualification was required.Medium Career Level- Oberfeldwebel/Oberleutnant- High School Diploma and an apprenticeship of a trade was required.Elevated Career Level- Leutnant/Oberstleutant- Educational level between High School and College, with an addition two-three years of practical training required.Highest Grade Career- Leutnant/Generalleutnant- University degree is required.The serrated litzen were indicative of the "High Grade Career" level. For this level, the position or specialty required a full college degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) Hi PaulI am doing some reserch and translation. What I have found out are these are also a set of boards for the "Beamten auf Kriegsdaur" 1939 regulation shouldercords.More to follow. Edited May 17, 2008 by Laurence Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I would like to see this information! Where did you find it? I thought that the only people to use it were the SHD and LSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) Hi PaulI am working out of "DIE DEUTSCHE WEHRMACHT Uniformierung und Ausr?stung 1933-1945" Vol 1 "DAS HEER" by Adolf Schlicht/John R. AngoliaI only have the 1939 regulatios translated to date, There were only a few ranks at the start which also differentiated the career level Kriegsverwaltungsrat, Kriegszahnartz, and Dolmetscher held the rank of Major, and was an official of the higher serviceKriegsverwaltungsoberinspektor held the rank of Hauptmann and was an official of the elevated service Kriegsvewaltungsinspektor held the rank of Leutnant and was an official of the elevated/middle service In the lower service, the career level was designated by the word "Kriegs", for example Kriegssekretar, Kriegswaffenmeister.The nebenfarbe for the interpreter was karminesrot, that of the dentist's dark blue (kornblumenblau). Kriegspfarrer carried neither collar tabs nor shoulder cords.Kriegsverwalungsrat Interwoven Aluminum rayon braid. With a 1 mm dunkelgr?nen cord. There are 9 ? 11 loops on the side of the cordsKriegsverwaltungsoberinspektor Constructed with one Aluminum rayon braid folded upon its self. With a 1 mm dunkelgr?nen cord in between; with two gold colored woven, narrow slides.Kriegsverwaltungsinspektor Same as above but with only 1 slideKriegsverwaltungssekretar Same as above but with no slidesKriegsverwaltungsassistant Constructed with one dunkelgr?nen rayon braid folded upon its self. With a 1 mm aluminum cord in between; two narrow, woven slides out of aluminumKriegsmagazinemeister Same as above with one slide in the middle Edited May 19, 2008 by Laurence Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Another set of boards, Obrestleutnat equivalent with Black nebenfarbe for the mostly technical careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) Well worn the reverse showing stich marks and how the end still bends inward a bit. I am guessing due to the sheen of the braid, that these might have been on a waffenrock. Edited May 31, 2008 by Laurence Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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