Stogieman Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Now this is interesting... comments, thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 Clearly a custom-made piece... but when was it custom made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Collector Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 To me, the hardware construction looks very much the same as the Oldenburg FA 1st. Class crosses in iron that were produced during WW I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 on a hunch...Jubilee period, mid 1890's....joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I am sure if you check the size of this cross, you will find that it is almost TR sized.This one matches the 2nd class version I have posted here on a couple of different occasions.I had Detlav take a look at mine and he said he had "no problem with the wide frame" and he thoughtthat it dated to "post 1900". I read this as saying it is a good Jubilee cross.I have seen only 2 others like this posted here or at WAF. This is the first 1st class I have seen.Here is my 2nd class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) Clearly a custom-made piece... but when was it custom made?The reverse does not seem to dis-similar to my EK1 from 1914-18The shape of the pin on the 1870 EK would suggest, in my opinion pre 1914 at leastregardsAlex Edited May 6, 2008 by Alex K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tezer Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I think there is one of this type pictured in "Iron Time" but I don't have the book on hand. It is a known type that has been regarded as "period," and sold as such by Detlev Niemann and others. Depends on what you consider a "period" example. That could be 1880, 1890, 1900, or....? My guess is they are 19th century, as the pin assemblies by 1914 had become more sophisticated than this. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Collector Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 The 1914 cross below, has the same style hardware, minus the horizontal bars under the hinge and catch on the 1870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 This piece was owned by someone in NY State who listed it on eBay Germany. I did watch the sale but opted not to bid. My thoughts were it was probably pre-1900 and assumed it would fetch a higher price than I was willing to go. In the end, it closed under 300- Euro which I think speaks volumes for what the German buyers thought of it. If it was real, someone walked away with quite a prize for a very small price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vestae Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Very nice sir ! Sebastien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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