EK 1870 Interesting 1870 EK1

[Stogieman]

Now this is interesting... comments, thoughts??

[Stogieman]

Clearly a custom-made piece... but when was it custom made?

[A Collector]

To me, the hardware construction looks very much the same as the Oldenburg FA 1st. Class crosses in iron that were produced during WW I.

[joe campbell]

on a hunch...

Jubilee period, mid 1890's....

joe

[gregM]

I am sure if you check the size of this cross, you will find that it is almost TR sized.

This one matches the 2nd class version I have posted here on a couple of different occasions.

I had Detlav take a look at mine and he said he had "no problem with the wide frame" and he thought

that it dated to "post 1900". I read this as saying it is a good Jubilee cross.

I have seen only 2 others like this posted here or at WAF. This is the first 1st class I have seen.

Here is my 2nd class.

[Alex K]

Clearly a custom-made piece... but when was it custom made?

The reverse does not seem to dis-similar to my EK1 from 1914-18

The shape of the pin on the 1870 EK would suggest, in my opinion pre 1914 at least

regards

Alex

Edited May 6, 2008 by Alex K

[Tim Tezer]

I think there is one of this type pictured in "Iron Time" but I don't have the book on hand. It is a known type that has been regarded as "period," and sold as such by Detlev Niemann and others. Depends on what you consider a "period" example. That could be 1880, 1890, 1900, or....? My guess is they are 19th century, as the pin assemblies by 1914 had become more sophisticated than this.

Tim

[A Collector]

The 1914 cross below, has the same style hardware, minus the horizontal bars under the hinge and catch on the 1870.

[Stogieman]

This piece was owned by someone in NY State who listed it on eBay Germany. I did watch the sale but opted not to bid. My thoughts were it was probably pre-1900 and assumed it would fetch a higher price than I was willing to go. In the end, it closed under 300- Euro which I think speaks volumes for what the German buyers thought of it. If it was real, someone walked away with quite a prize for a very small price.

[vestae]

Very nice sir !

Sebastien.