Officer?s visor?

[Rosenberg]

Gentleman,

is this an imperial visor?

[Rosenberg]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Guest Rick Research]

Are the band and piping actually PINK, and the cap dark blue? Have to be very precise about colors to get the right regimental identification.

The Reichs cockade should be up top and the Prussian one on the pink band, but before moving them, you need somebody with better knowledge to confirm that the unit was indeed Prussian.

If pink, some version of cavalry, definitely--but I couldn't say more than that for a precise ID. The cockades are for a senior NCO or officer.

Is there a maker's name and address in the lining? That would really nail down a local connection to a pre-war unit.

[Rosenberg]

Thanks for your reply Rick!

....it is not a dark blue as a Kriegsmarine of TR era.....somewhat a grey-blue colour I would say.....the other colour is pink.....the inside can be seen in this pic...no writings there....

[Guest Rick Research]

Bingo! Westphalian Dragoon Regiment 7, Saarbr?cken.

Cockades are correct, just inexplicably switched.

Right smack in our GIs' "souvenir alley" in 1945.

Cavalry officers continued to wear their pre-war colored hats even with wartime Feldgrau uniforms.

[Rosenberg]

Thanks a lot Rick. Would have been impossible for me to identify

No idea how the switched cockades came into place,but best thing is they are the right ones

Thanks again!

[ccj]

Thanks a lot Rick. Would have been impossible for me to identify

No idea how the switched cockades came into place,but best thing is they are the right ones

Thanks again!

Very nice visor cap. Dragoons were allowed to wear this cap with their field grey uniform as well at the pre war uniform. Very attractive.

Edited May 18, 2008 by ccj

[Chip]

While it looks fine from the outside, I've got to scratch my head about what is going on inside. This "sweat diamond" is typical of later caps, not imperial and the font style of the printing is also typical of postwar and later periods. It's hard for me to see clearly, but I think the cockades are also the thicker (the silver rings) 3rd Reich variety. This may be a "Traditions" cap.

Chip

[Rosenberg]

Thanks for your reply,Chip. I will do some more pics of the inside to help identify the cap better.

Regards

[Rosenberg]

Another shot

[Rosenberg]

and one more

[Henry 24th]

Very nice Cap, Rosenberg! Wonderful condition. There is also one on kaisersbunker in Tony's collection. Worth a peak I should say.

My dad has an engraved sword belonging to this Regt. Shall I post images of it in this thread or in it's own sword thread? It would be great to see the two side by side (if only on the internet.)

Thanks For sharing.

Kind regards...Henry

[ccj]

I didn't notice the sweat shield until Chip mentioned it. I can't remember seeing one in an Imperial Cap...