EK 1870 1870 iron cross awards

[braxton bradford]

greetings. i have an 1870 campaign medal bar w/the 1870 IC w/25 yr oakleaf and the

bavarian military merit medal. only 612 were awarded. can it be id'd? the battles were

weissenburg, sedan, and paris. any help? best, braxton

[Guest Rick Research]

What's the rest of the medal bar? Scans please.

[braxton bradford]

greetings. i have an 1870 campaign medal bar w/the 1870 IC w/25 yr oakleaf and the

bavarian military merit medal. only 612 were awarded. can it be id'd? the battles were

weissenburg, sedan, and paris. any help? best, braxton

greetings. can't scan, but it has the 1870 iron cross 2nd class w/25 yr oak leaf,

bav mil merit medal, and the 1870 camp medal w/bars weissenburg, sedan and paris. on trapezoidal mount. best, braxton

[Ulsterman]

Interesting-weren't the bars put out @ 1900?

What order are the medals in?

The Centennial medal must've been worn separate?

I would really like to see that bar.

Edited June 9, 2008 by Ulsterman

[braxton bradford]

Interesting-weren't the bars put out @ 1900?

What order are the medals in?

The Centennial medal must've been worn separate?

I would really like to see that bar.

[braxton bradford]

greetings and thanks. no centennial medal. from left to right 1870 IC 2nd class w/

25 yr oakleaf, bav mil merit medal, 1870-71 camp w/bars. thats all folks. w/just

612 awarded for the franco prussian war. rara avis. best, brax

[Guest Rick Research]

Then you've got problems. Very large and insurmountable problems.

Bavarian precedence put their awards first.

No Bavarian in 1895-97 would ever have worn a Prussian Iron Cross before a Bavarian Silver Bravery Medal.

Which is where scans come in....

though, unfortunately, even wthout scans this can pretty much be presumed to be yet another of the endless todal wave of rubbish Frankenstein parts bars being mass produced currently in Germany.

Sorry.

[Ulsterman]

Perhaps-a post 1935 bar "made older" by the sammlerariatclub?

The EK2/BavMMcx/Hkx would be the correct precedence for post 1935 bars.

If the medals are hooked on the back.......at least the ribbon bar and 1870 campaign medal might be originals.

[braxton bradford]

Perhaps-a post 1935 bar "made older" by the sammlerariatclub?

The EK2/BavMMcx/Hkx would be the correct precedence for post 1935 bars.

If the medals are hooked on the back.......at least the ribbon bar and 1870 campaign medal might be originals.

[braxton bradford]

Perhaps-a post 1935 bar "made older" by the sammlerariatclub?

The EK2/BavMMcx/Hkx would be the correct precedence for post 1935 bars.

If the medals are hooked on the back.......at least the ribbon bar and 1870 campaign medal might be originals.

greetings. if you sen me your email address i'll send you scans of the bar. best, braxton

[Ulsterman]

Reluctantly I don't give out my home email. I am sorry.

However, the Moderators will be more than happy to help you if you have scans already completed.

[EuRob]

hmmm?

[Schießplatzmeister]

Then you've got problems. Very large and insurmountable problems.

Bavarian precedence put their awards first.

No Bavarian in 1895-97 would ever have worn a Prussian Iron Cross before a Bavarian Silver Bravery Medal.

Which is where scans come in....

though, unfortunately, even wthout scans this can pretty much be presumed to be yet another of the endless todal wave of rubbish Frankenstein parts bars being mass produced currently in Germany.

Sorry.

Hello everyone:

Rick is absolutely correct regarding this (as with all other things)! In order to receive the Bavarian Military Merit Medal the recipient would have to be a Bavarian (there may have been exceptions to this, but I do not know of any). And, a Bavarian veteran of the 1870-1871 conflict would wear the MVM, then the EKII, and then the campaign medal. I guess that it is possible that the Centennial was worn by itself. This group sounds a bit strange to be sure.

I wish that a photo/scan of it was posted. That would certainly help determine what is going on here.

Best regards,

"SPM"

[Schießplatzmeister]

Hello everyone:

Looking through my records, interestingly enough, I do have information that there was an 1870-1871 Bavarian veteran who wore his EK II in his buttonhole, followed by the Bavarian TKM, 1870-71 campaign, etc. on his chest.

Best regards,

"SPM"