Eric Stahlhut Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 i noticed that there isn't a lot of discourse concerning this particular incarnation of an ancient teutonic order.how many grades were there?
Guest Rick Research Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 There is a strong, simple elegance to the design and colors of these... All I have are ribbon bars with it.Identity of the Bavarian wearer of the upper two remains unknown, as does the Austrian holder of the German style bar 2nd from bottom. Sew on bar at bottom belonged to Bavarian Rittmeister aD (KB 1. Ulanen Rgt) Franz von Brentano di Tremezzo (born 1888, alive 1954). His "DRm" was gazetted 22.12.17. He was a son of the Hessian Minister of the Interior.
Josef Rietveld Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 @EricThe Mariannerkreuz instituted 1871 by the Deutscher Ritterorden was given to catholic nobility who served as orderly or, more common, donated money to the Order. (nickname nobility-dog-tag).There existed a breast badge and a neck decoration. The colour of the ribbon was black (1871-1885) and later Black/silver (the pattern similar to the austria Kriegsband - forinstens for bravery medals)The Mariannerkreuz is not a kind of special class of the order. the order based on the classic system of civalric oders with Grandmaster, Knights of Grace, Profess-Knights, laybrother cross, priors cross. there insignias looked differentregradsjosef
Eric Stahlhut Posted September 24, 2008 Author Posted September 24, 2008 joseph, thanks very much for answering my query regarding the grades of this version of the deutschen ordens st. mariens zu jerusalem.i was reading werlich's description of this, and he stated that the order originally came in four classes, but his description of the marianer version was very brief and vague. as i have never seen a breast star or sash, i was curious...kind regards! :cheers:
ccj Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 joseph, thanks very much for answering my query regarding the grades of this version of the deutschen ordens st. mariens zu jerusalem.i was reading werlich's description of this, and he stated that the order originally came in four classes, but his description of the marianer version was very brief and vague. as i have never seen a breast star or sash, i was curious...kind regards! I've been looking for a nice one to display on my Austrian Pike Grey Tunic.Nice
Iver Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Here is a box for Marianer kreuz II. klasse... breast badge.. from my collectionEtui from firm Rothe & Neffe, Wien... Edited November 28, 2008 by Iver
Iver Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 ...and now its complete (thanks Elmar Lang)... The cross is hallmarked ("windhund" and "A")and makers mark "FR" (C.F.Rothe & Neffe), ribbon copy :(
Elmar Lang Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I'm glad for having given a little contribution to "fill" that fine etui... Best wishes, Elmar Lang
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