Lightfoot Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 Here are two examples, I think that the photos are from various auction sites... These are actually miniatures. 1.JPG2.JPG3.JPG4.JPG Nice miniature badges, first time I see Goldstein manufacturer. Maybe because I have never been interested in them before .
paja Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 Now that you have mentioned daggers, I also noticed big amount of them being offered and sold. They are mostly coming from the same sellers some of them are of pretty good quality others not, but that doesn't mean that they are fake. Also there couple of "types" of these daggers looking pretty much the same with sometimes different details for example different type of material used from the handle. Do you perhaps have some photos of those fake chetnik daggers? I'm really interested to see how they look like and compare them with others from ebay.
Lightfoot Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) All fakes! Bur very good maker, he makes an old patina too. Edited December 16, 2014 by Lightfoot
Lightfoot Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 Now this is an original of lieutenant colonel Sinisha "Pazarac" Ocokoljic that was one of the closest officer´s of General Mihailovich. He was the organizator of the withdrawal to Slovenia. He managed to escape to Austria, but there he was kidnapped by Tito´s agents after the war and brought to Belgrade at a show trial. He was tortured and executed.
Lightfoot Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 Hope that you have find this interesting I´ll go to bed now
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 All fakes! Bur very good maker, he makes an old patina too. Yeah, those are them. I think this one is the same as the 2nd (and the 6th?) from your post. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-20258000-1418776451.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-89031400-1418776453.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-69349600-1418776455.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-56842500-1418776457.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-87357700-1418776458.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 3rd, skull with crossed bones on scabbard looks pretty much the same as the one used on M24ČK knife worn by the members of četnik (assault) units within regular army. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-39201600-1418776767.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-21141400-1418776770.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-10254500-1418776772.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-37582100-1418776774.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-20079000-1418776777.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 What about this type? Good or fake? I've seen three examples just like that in short period of time. First. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-64084000-1418777281.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-49200000-1418777285.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-39100200-1418777289.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Second. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-33342300-1418777394.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-48458800-1418777396.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-83529400-1418777398.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Third. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-43858500-1418777465.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-01921800-1418777471.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-83500500-1418777477.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 By the way the "head" of Petar II is from I think 10 dinars coin. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-34041800-1418777638.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-40785200-1418777640.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 One more kindjal-shaped dagger. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-02926800-1418778005.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-31840600-1418778007.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-60483000-1418778009.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Second example. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-15155100-1418778086.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-30577800-1418778088.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-42431700-1418778090.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-84712700-1418778092.jpg
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Now this is an original of lieutenant colonel Sinisha "Pazarac" Ocokoljic that was one of the closest officer´s of General Mihailovich. He was the organizator of the withdrawal to Slovenia. He managed to escape to Austria, but there he was kidnapped by Tito´s agents after the war and brought to Belgrade at a show trial. He was tortured and executed. One of the most beautiful daggers I have ever seen! Could you perhaps post just a little bit larger photos?
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Vojvoda Tankosić's (1880-1915) dagger, one of the most prominent leaders of pre-WW1 četniks (komite). Photo taken at Military museum's exhibition "100 years from Battle of Kumanovo". http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-47830600-1418778956.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-78970400-1418778959.jpg His initials, Cyrillic letters В. Т. (Војислав Танкосић - Vojislav Tankosić).
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 One more photo with illustrations of the same dagger from article written by Branko Bogdanović I found somewhere online.
Lightfoot Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 What about this type? Good or fake? I've seen three examples just like that in short period of time. First.1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg
Lightfoot Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Second example.1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg Fake!
Lightfoot Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Third.1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg This model is fake but made almost exactly like the original that they have in the military museum in Belgrade.
Lightfoot Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 All are fake except the one from the museum.
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Now some nicer ones (photos from ebay). http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-85218700-1418822186.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-89464900-1418822191.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-84447800-1418822199.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-92790900-1418822202.jpg
Lightfoot Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Here´s some originals from the military museum in Belgrade. As you can see somebody has made copys of these daggers. Because these are unique of their kind. Nobody had the same of the chetniks.
paja Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Unusual blade and very interesting engraving. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-40884400-1418822248.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-33684700-1418822307.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-12491800-1418822313.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-56861100-1418822319.jpg
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