Romania Romanian medal group

[seb16trs]

hello gentlemen, here's a global view of a group picked up directly from Romania. Everything documented.

and of course, a technical question: I browsed the russian site http://sammler.ru/ and I need some datations. Do you know when they switched from one type to another?

our Russian fellow determinated 4 types about "star of Romania" order:

1st: "plate" star with nice red and blue enameled center

2nd: big relief silver plated star, center with RPR coat-of-arms, "RPR" title above.

3rd: as above, without "RPR" title

4th: as above, RSR variation...

thanks for yours highlights (I know there exist a romanian blue book and a german book about orders...)

[Carol I]

Do you know when they switched from one type to another?

our Russian fellow determinated 4 types about "star of Romania" order:

1st: "plate" star with nice red and blue enameled center

2nd: big relief silver plated star, center with RPR coat-of-arms, "RPR" title above.

3rd: as above, without "RPR" title

4th: as above, RSR variation...

I could only identify three types.

1. RPR enamelled star: 1948-1964

2. RPR metal star: 1964-1966

3. RSR metal star: 1966-1989

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo seb 16trs

looking at the pictures in one of my auction catalogs, I can give the following:-

The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Popular Republic" 1947 - 1965

or The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Socialist Republic" 1965 - 1989.

The particular model can be defined by the initials upon the coat of arms in the center of the Order.

There were in fact 5 Classes:-

The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Popular Republic" 1947 - 1965

Ist Class, Ist Model, (1948 -1964), gold, diamonds,

Breast Star with pin on the Reverse,

presented in a leather box.

Gold Shield surrounded by red enamel, in turn surrounded by silver circlet with 20 diamonds.

For the moment I do not have a description of the II - V Classes in the R.P.R. era.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Socialist Republic" 1965 - 1989.

2nd Model (1966-1989.)

I Class:-

diamonds on the 12, 3, 5, 7, and 9, o'clock arms of the star, Center shield in Gold, behind this orange enamel,

in turn surrounded by a circle of diamonds*, which is surrounded by laurel leaves in gold-gilt.

Awarded in luxury leather box

* glass stones.

II Class:-

As above but without diamonds in the arms.

* glass stones

III Class:-

Metal silvered main body to order.

Center shield gilt, surrounded by orange enamel in turn surrounded by a circle of diamonds*,

which is surrounded by laurel leaves in gold-gilt.* glass stones.

IV Class:-

Silver-gilt metal, center shield in gold-gilt(?) surrounded by blue enamel circle,

surrounded by green enamel, around this a circle of silver laurel leaves.

V Class:-

Silver-gilt metal, gold shield, surrounded by orange enamel, silver medallion area

in turn surrounded by Silver Laurel leaves.

Kevin in Deva.

[Carol I]

Kevin's description is for the latter two types of this order. They have similar insignia except for the initials on the coat-of-arms. However, there was also an earlier type that had a red-enamelled star instead of the metal star of the later types.

[Carol I]

I have found a reference to an OMSA article by Charles H. Pankey on the communist Order of the Star of Romania.

[seb16trs]

I have found a reference to an OMSA article by Charles H. Pankey on the communist Order of the Star of Romania.

hello Carol,

does it cover the 4 types identified by russian collectors?

[seb16trs]

Hallo seb 16trs

looking at the pictures in one of my auction catalogs, I can give the following:-

The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Popular Republic" 1947 - 1965

or The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Socialist Republic" 1965 - 1989.

hello Kevin, thanks! I forgotten the 1965 year when Ceaucescu proclamed the socialist republic...

so the 4th type covers 1965-1989 period.

Edited November 4, 2008 by seb16trs

[Carol I]

does it cover the 4 types identified by russian collectors?

As I said, there are only three types described:

1. RPR enamelled star: 1948-1964

2. RPR metal star: 1964-1966

3. RSR metal star: 1966-1989

Do you have an image of the fourth type?

[seb16trs]

As I said, there are only three types described:

1. RPR enamelled star: 1948-1964

2. RPR metal star: 1964-1966

3. RSR metal star: 1966-1989

Do you have an image of the fourth type?

here it is what they call the second type.

3rd

4th

Edited November 4, 2008 by seb16trs

[Carol I]

here it is what they call the second type.

Interesting, it's the first time I see this type. I wonder whether it was an official model or only a pattern from the mint.

[seb16trs]

Interesting, it's the first time I see this type. I wonder whether it was an official model or only a pattern from the mint.

this is not specified by this russian source; but I believe the guys from this forum know what they're talking about (Anatoly and Bolgarin post in our forum)

[Anatoly13]

Greetings to all!

It is pleasant to see discussion about one of my favourite orders.

And also it is pleasant that my work on database creation is claimed.

Actually exists much more types and variants of this award. Let's together try to classify. I will post scans in the evening...

[Anatoly13]

I open new topic here:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3194...mp;#entry301355

[seb16trs]

many thanks to Carol who found an article in a romanian phaleristic review.

first conclusion: my 5th class star doesn't belong to the original group: the small diploma is dated 1959. With unnumbered awards, put-up is always the risk...

[Carol I]

many thanks to Carol who found an article in a romanian phaleristic review.

You're welcome.

I thought it would be better to post the link to Colectionarul Roman here as well. To download the magazine, right-click on Descărcare and choose "Save Target As..." or the equivalent in your browser.

[Anatoly13]

May be someone can translate this infos? :rolleyes:

Edited November 5, 2008 by Anatoly13

[Guest Rick Research]

I would like to see what the award documents for the medals look like too, please.