seb16trs Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 hello gentlemen, here's a global view of a group picked up directly from Romania. Everything documented.and of course, a technical question: I browsed the russian site http://sammler.ru/ and I need some datations. Do you know when they switched from one type to another?our Russian fellow determinated 4 types about "star of Romania" order:1st: "plate" star with nice red and blue enameled center2nd: big relief silver plated star, center with RPR coat-of-arms, "RPR" title above.3rd: as above, without "RPR" title4th: as above, RSR variation...thanks for yours highlights (I know there exist a romanian blue book and a german book about orders...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Do you know when they switched from one type to another?our Russian fellow determinated 4 types about "star of Romania" order:1st: "plate" star with nice red and blue enameled center2nd: big relief silver plated star, center with RPR coat-of-arms, "RPR" title above.3rd: as above, without "RPR" title4th: as above, RSR variation...I could only identify three types.1. RPR enamelled star: 1948-19642. RPR metal star: 1964-19663. RSR metal star: 1966-1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hallo seb 16trs looking at the pictures in one of my auction catalogs, I can give the following:-The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Popular Republic" 1947 - 1965 or The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Socialist Republic" 1965 - 1989.The particular model can be defined by the initials upon the coat of arms in the center of the Order.There were in fact 5 Classes:-The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Popular Republic" 1947 - 1965Ist Class, Ist Model, (1948 -1964), gold, diamonds, Breast Star with pin on the Reverse,presented in a leather box.Gold Shield surrounded by red enamel, in turn surrounded by silver circlet with 20 diamonds.For the moment I do not have a description of the II - V Classes in the R.P.R. era.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Socialist Republic" 1965 - 1989.2nd Model (1966-1989.)I Class:-diamonds on the 12, 3, 5, 7, and 9, o'clock arms of the star, Center shield in Gold, behind this orange enamel, in turn surrounded by a circle of diamonds*, which is surrounded by laurel leaves in gold-gilt.Awarded in luxury leather box* glass stones.II Class:-As above but without diamonds in the arms.* glass stonesIII Class:- Metal silvered main body to order.Center shield gilt, surrounded by orange enamel in turn surrounded by a circle of diamonds*, which is surrounded by laurel leaves in gold-gilt.* glass stones.IV Class:-Silver-gilt metal, center shield in gold-gilt(?) surrounded by blue enamel circle, surrounded by green enamel, around this a circle of silver laurel leaves.V Class:-Silver-gilt metal, gold shield, surrounded by orange enamel, silver medallion area in turn surrounded by Silver Laurel leaves.Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Kevin's description is for the latter two types of this order. They have similar insignia except for the initials on the coat-of-arms. However, there was also an earlier type that had a red-enamelled star instead of the metal star of the later types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I have found a reference to an OMSA article by Charles H. Pankey on the communist Order of the Star of Romania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 I have found a reference to an OMSA article by Charles H. Pankey on the communist Order of the Star of Romania.hello Carol,does it cover the 4 types identified by russian collectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Hallo seb 16trs looking at the pictures in one of my auction catalogs, I can give the following:-The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Popular Republic" 1947 - 1965 or The Order of the "Star of the Romanian Socialist Republic" 1965 - 1989.hello Kevin, thanks! I forgotten the 1965 year when Ceaucescu proclamed the socialist republic...so the 4th type covers 1965-1989 period. Edited November 4, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 does it cover the 4 types identified by russian collectors?As I said, there are only three types described:1. RPR enamelled star: 1948-19642. RPR metal star: 1964-19663. RSR metal star: 1966-1989Do you have an image of the fourth type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) As I said, there are only three types described:1. RPR enamelled star: 1948-19642. RPR metal star: 1964-19663. RSR metal star: 1966-1989Do you have an image of the fourth type?here it is what they call the second type.3rd4th Edited November 4, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 here it is what they call the second type.Interesting, it's the first time I see this type. I wonder whether it was an official model or only a pattern from the mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Interesting, it's the first time I see this type. I wonder whether it was an official model or only a pattern from the mint.this is not specified by this russian source; but I believe the guys from this forum know what they're talking about (Anatoly and Bolgarin post in our forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Greetings to all! It is pleasant to see discussion about one of my favourite orders.And also it is pleasant that my work on database creation is claimed. Actually exists much more types and variants of this award. Let's together try to classify. I will post scans in the evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I open new topic here:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3194...mp;#entry301355 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 many thanks to Carol who found an article in a romanian phaleristic review.first conclusion: my 5th class star doesn't belong to the original group: the small diploma is dated 1959. With unnumbered awards, put-up is always the risk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 many thanks to Carol who found an article in a romanian phaleristic review.You're welcome.I thought it would be better to post the link to Colectionarul Roman here as well. To download the magazine, right-click on Descărcare and choose "Save Target As..." or the equivalent in your browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) May be someone can translate this infos? :rolleyes: Edited November 5, 2008 by Anatoly13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I would like to see what the award documents for the medals look like too, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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