Laurence Strong Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) As more of my purchases are appearing in the mail, I decided to break them down into the individual orders.A Knight of the Order, the enamel is in excellent shape. Edited November 9, 2005 by Laurence Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Golden Palms of the order. It look's like a relativly new medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 Some new ones came in the mail.Officer of the Order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 (edited) A Knight of the Order. If I am wrong with the levels of the medals would you let me know please. How do you tell which ones are pre or post 1950, does the crown size have any meaning? Why do some have the swords on the medal and some on the ribbon? Edited December 9, 2005 by Laurence Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 (edited) A cased Golden Palm Leaves with Flemish writing only, would this be for a pre 1950 medal?The case cover Edited December 9, 2005 by Laurence Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 The interior, there is no makers name in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 The medal it's self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 A Knight of the Order. If I am wrong with the levels of the medals would you let me know please. How do you tell which ones are pre or post 1950, does the crown size have any meaning? Why do some have the swords on the medal and some on the ribbon? Hi Laurence,You have the pictures in the wrong order : the officer class is the gilt one with the rosette on its ribbon, the knight class is silver/silvered bronze and without the rosette.As far as I know, there's no way of dating the Crown Order accurately unless accompanying documents referring to the recipient receiving his award are present. The crown size is not really relevant as lots of varieties exist merely because different manufacturers over the course of time have produced these awards.I seem to spot the possibility of a silver marking on one of the suspension rings but it could be the place where the ring was soldered to close it ... you may need your magnifying glass I've never seen a crown order with swords on the cross/medal itself. The crossed swords on the ribbon signify an award to a veteran : simple crossed swords for WWI, same but with a small planchet "40-45" for WWII and same but with a small planchet "COREE - KOREA" (or the other way around) for the Korean War. Sorry to say but the ones on yours are non-regulation. The "correct" ones have a broader blade tip (see pics of officer and knight class below). Also to be noted : the crossed swords for the knight class are silver, the ones for officer class or above are gilt.In case you're wondering : the palm on the ribbon signifies an award for wartime merit or action. The crossed swords would then have been added on the ribbon later, years after the war, when the recipient became entitled to them as a veteran (in the late 1930's I believe).[attachmentid=18745] [attachmentid=18746] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 A cased Golden Palm Leaves with Flemish writing only, would this be for a pre 1950 medal? I would rather think it's post-1950 and even much later than that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 Thanks Hendrik.I did not think that it was old, but I thought it would have had both languages on it.Would the swords be an add on by the owner or a dealer trying to enhance the medal? Should I remove them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I did not think that it was old, but I thought it would have had both languages on it.Would the swords be an add on by the owner or a dealer trying to enhance the medal? Should I remove them? The unilingual Flemish box in my opinion merely indicates the manufacturer came from Flanders rather than say Brussels ... being in Flemish only probably makes it 1980's or later rather than earlier but there's no way for me of accurately confirming this.I'd leave the swords on : manufacturers sometimes use these when they feel the rosette is an obstactle for placing the correct wider swords there ... it needs more ribbon to put the latter on ! Just saving on manufacturing costs I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 a beautifull knight cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 some details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Couple of Knights of the Crown with swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 3 gold palms and 1 silver palmI love those thin-leaved examples.. Wonderfull craftmanship!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) To Compare....Silver Palms Order of the CrownThis one is quite old (found with an old group of WW2)Compare this one with the relatively new Gold Palms in the very beginning of this thread.I sold my Silver Palms a week ago, It was exactly the same as the relatively new Gold Palms,Considered it Ugly So sold them and bought this example....Okay, a lot of patina, most of the shiny silver has gone, but it's just age innit???Just like most wines... They become better with age Edited June 12, 2006 by Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Knight of the Crown,An other example except for the 3 above, which aren't in my posession,This one has still the bright silver swords on it, also very very vibrant blue colors.Can't make a better scan of it....But one day.... I will buy a digital camera..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) My newest addition to my collection with respect to this thread...Officer of the crownObverse and reversehope that the scans are clear enough???vibrant colours of the leaves and the blue!! WOnderfull love the colours Edited June 24, 2006 by Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 see here a beautifull manufacture with the leaves worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 see here some details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 and at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Fabulous!!!!But you're hiding something What is the whole group??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 But you're hiding something What is the whole group??? look at topic=9689 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Have a look at this 3-step laurel wreath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 side view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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