ccj Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 For years I've enjoyed viewing and collecting the Croix de Guerre.I like the variety found as it seems there were no regs stipulating the placement of stars and palms.1915
ccj Posted November 27, 2008 Author Posted November 27, 2008 1916 reverse.How'd the sword get bent? It doesn't move back into place by hand!!!
ccj Posted November 27, 2008 Author Posted November 27, 2008 Croix de Guerre1917 with star, I think silver.Focus was bad...
ccj Posted November 27, 2008 Author Posted November 27, 2008 Croix de Guerre1918 with palm and 2 SILVER stars and 1 bronze star
ccj Posted November 28, 2008 Author Posted November 28, 2008 Croix de Guerre with 8 palms.Sorry for the quality, I just can seem to get a good shot while medal is attached to the tunic.
ccj Posted November 30, 2008 Author Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Hello ccj. One doubt whit palms:If five bronze palms are one siver palm, ?Is possible to wear in the ribbon eigth bronze palms?. ?Was it a real habit or is an arbitrary combination?. Anyway a man with a eigth palms in his croix have to be a big heroe... Congratulations for your collection... is a decoration really nice.Have you ever seen a CdG with the palms sewn on each end like the one I have with 8 palms? What level soldier received army level only awards? Another question, did many generals receive the CgG and if so were they aways with palm? ******** Can anyone post images of Cdg Medals with multiple palms and stars? ******** Edited November 30, 2008 by ccj
Hendrik Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 Hello Boris and Charles,Theoretically 5 bronze palms had to be replaced by 1 silver palm. However, recipients in many cases preferred stacking their bronze palms and there seems to have been little objection to their doing so.Eight palms almost certainly indicate an ace pilot (1 palm per air victory) ... the ordinary trench warfare soldier would nearly never survive that long.I've never seen palms mounted that close together, usually they were spaced out a bit more on - if necessary - a super long ribbon.The cross and its citations are mainly bravery awards but not strictly so, exceptional war service or leadership (for generals) also led to awards.As requested, some more pictures coming up ...
Hendrik Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 Note the silver palm in the left picture (top palm) ...And now for some specials :A silver cross instead of the usual bronze one, non-official, of course.
Hendrik Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 And, currently residing in the Paris L?gion d'Honneur Museum :If I recall correctly, it once belonged to a chap called Joffre ... you may have heard the name before Cheers,Hendrik
ccj Posted December 1, 2008 Author Posted December 1, 2008 And, currently residing in the Paris L?gion d'Honneur Museum :If I recall correctly, it once belonged to a chap called Joffre ... you may have heard the name before Cheers,HendrikWOW!!! Would Joffre have worn that version on his uniform? I wonder if it's a private purchase by Joffre or given to him by the gov't.
Veteran Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 When the pins of the palms broke they could be sewn. Or they might even be sewn simply to make them safely attached to the ribbon. No special orders on that count.A CdG with that many palms (if it is was really earned by whoever had it prepared) could possibly be a flyboy. Some of the fighter pilots had up to 20 palms + ...Hundred of thousands of men earned a CdG during the Great war. All kinds of combinations of stard and palms existed. I am afraid the question as to how many generals received one will remain unanswered. Usually an officer received a citation from an authority of higher command. Therefore, it could well be they received Divisionnal or Army Corps or Army citations, with the according ribbon device.But this is part guesswork on my part. Frankly, I don't think French collectors mind much about that. They would rather be interested in knowing who was the recipient of a given cross, with the attached citations.Hope this does not sound discourageing. Best regardsVeteran
ccj Posted December 1, 2008 Author Posted December 1, 2008 When the pins of the palms broke they could be sewn. Or they might even be sewn simply to make them safely attached to the ribbon. No special orders on that count.A CdG with that many palms (if it is was really earned by whoever had it prepared) could possibly be a flyboy. Some of the fighter pilots had up to 20 palms + ...Hundred of thousands of men earned a CdG during the Great war. All kinds of combinations of stard and palms existed. I am afraid the question as to how many generals received one will remain unanswered. Usually an officer received a citation from an authority of higher command. Therefore, it could well be they received Divisionnal or Army Corps or Army citations, with the according ribbon device.But this is part guesswork on my part. Frankly, I don't think French collectors mind much about that. They would rather be interested in knowing who was the recipient of a given cross, with the attached citations.Hope this does not sound discourageing. Best regardsVeteranRollet appears to be wearing a WW1 Cd with 7 bronze palms and one silver star. Wonder why he chose not to wear a silver. Maybe one or two are silver but they look bronze.
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