Mongolia Mongolian awards dates and numbers

[Eric Schena]

Hi all:

Reading the threads on Mongolian orders and the paucity of any kind of numerical range information on them, I thought I'd post this. On another forum, someone (vatjan, if anyone here is familiar with that thread) was keeping track of SN ranges for the different varieties of orders. Using his fantastic info, I've been trying to keep a running total myself in a spreadsheet. Since I think my methodology may be sufficiently different enough from vatjan's, as well as some of the numbers I have collected differ enough, and all the info was captured from data in the public domain, I thought I'd post this here to help in any ongoing number logging efforts. If anyone has any objection to this post, let me know and I'll remove it - last thing I want to be is an information thief.

A couple of things:

1. For the most part, I did not include the current orders.

2. My copy of Battushig is still in transit (really HUGE thank you to Christian L. for snagging me a copy ), so some of my variety identifications may be off a bit.

3. I also did not take into account screwplate types.

I hope this is vaguely useful. Corrections/comments/complaints, send them my way

Hero of MPR / Medal "Gold Star" of Hero of MPR

Type 1 (Resembles Order of Sukhe Bator but w/Uighur inscription and different rays)

No SN data

Type 2 (Ribboned screwback suspension, hand engraved SN)

No SN data

Medal "Gold Soyembo" of Hero of Labor of MPR

Type 1 (two piece riveted construction)

Low = 13 High = 242

Type 2 (one piece construction)

Low = 420 High = ?

Medal "Gold Star" of Honorary Freeman of MPR

No SN data

Order of Sukhe Bator

Type 1 (Screwback)

Low = 185 High = 788

Type 2 (pinback)

Low = 839 High = 1937

Order of Military Valor

1st award

Type 1 (Small star, 3 hallmarks)

Unnumbered

Type 2.1 (Large red star, tiny МОНДВОР mintmark, rivets almost to edge)

Low = 188 High = ?

Type 2.2 (Large red star, larger МОНДВОР mintmark, rivets towards center)

Low = 613 High = ?

2nd award

No SN data

Order of Red Banner of Military Valor

1st award

Type 1.1 (МОНДВОР mintmark; 3 rivets)

Low = 110 High = ?

Type 1.2 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 4 rivets; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom)

Low = 663 High = 2401

Type 1.3 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 4 rivets; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 1240 High = 2581

2nd award

No SN data

3rd award

No SN data

4th award (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark placement unknown; 4 rivets)

Low = 143 High = 150

Order of Combat Red Banner

1st award

Type 1 (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost)

Low = 115 High = 2640

Type 2.1 (Pinback 3 rivets; SN at 12 o'clock)

Low = 3160 High = 4449

Type 2.2 (Pinback 2 rivets; SN at 5 o'clock)

Low = 4685 High = 5380

2nd award (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost)

Low = 12 High = 398

3rd award (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost)

No SN data

4th award (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost)

No SN data

Order of Civil Valor

Type 1 (Small star, 3 hallmarks)

Unnumbered

Type 2 (Large red star, МОНДВОР mintmark)

Low = 126 High = 165

Order of Labor Glory / Order of the Red Banner of Industrialization

Type 1.1 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; SN at 12 o'clock)

Low = 398 High = 2325

Type 1.2 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 1837 High = 2315

Order of Labor Red Banner

Type 1 (Screwback)

Low = 106 High = 3452

Type 2 (Pinback)

Low = 4167 High = 5975

Order of Military Merit

Type 1.1 (Screwback; flat reverse; 5 rivets)

Low = 225 High = 838

Type 1.2 (Screwback; circular indentation at center on reverse; 2 rivets)

Low = 1038 High = 5873

Type 2 (Pinback)

Low = 6177 High = 8722

Order of the Polar Star

Type 1 (Screwback; МОНДВОР mintmark; long oval design)

Low = 751 High = 792

Type 2.1 (Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom)

Low = 353 High = 2831

Type 2.2 (Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 1861 High = ?

Type 3.1 (Screwback; Cyrillic; slightly concave reverse; SN at 7 o'clock)

Low = 656 High = 5296

Type 3.2 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 5094 High = 9941

Type 3.3 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN at 6 o'clock)

Low = 10544 High = 14828

Type 4 (Pinback)

Low = 15074 High = 29990

Medal for Military Merit

Type 1.1 (Ribboned screwback suspension; SN with "No." prefix)

Low = 484 High = 1753

Type 1.2 (Ribboned screwback suspension; SN without prefix)

Low = 2146 High = 9263

Type 2.1 (Ribboned pinback suspension; SN hand engraved)

Low = 3151 High = ?

Type 2.2 (Ribboned pinback suspension; SN rotating tool engraved)

Low = 10020 High = 16999

Type 3.1 (Enameled pinback suspension; SN rotating tool engraved)

Low = 18775 High = 23354

Type 3.2 (Enameled pinback suspension; no SN)

Unnumbered

Honorary Labor Medal

Type 1.1 (Ribboned screwback suspension; Uighur; SN with "No." prefix)

Low = 550 High = ?

Type 1.2 (Ribboned screwback suspension; Uighur; SN without prefix)

Low = 2839 High = 16418

Type 2.1 (Ribboned pinback suspension; Cyrillic; SN stamped)

Low = 17723 High = 20723

Type 2.2 (Ribboned pinback suspension; Cyrillic; SN rotating tool engraved)

Low = 22527 High = 35296

Type 3 (Enameled pinback suspension; SN rotating tool engraved)

Low = 1401 High = 2052

Type 4 (Enameled pinback suspension; SN rotating tool engraved; aluminum)

Low = 737 High = 4310

Medal for Selflessness/Medal for Distinction in Prodtecting Public Order

Type 1.1 (Painted 4 red and 4 blue bands; laurel leaves uncolored; SN stamped)

Low = 10 High = 21

Type 1.2 (Enameled 4 red and 4 blue bands; laurel leaves uncolored; SN stamped)

Low = 280 High = 381

Type 1.3 (Enameled 4 red and 4 blue bands; green enameled laurel leaves)

Low = ? High = ?

Type 2.1 (Two red bands and one blue band; SN rotating tool engraved)

Low = 1027 High = ?

Type 2.2 (Two red bands and one blue band; no SN )

unnumbered

Medal for the Victory over Japan

Type 1 (Thick type)

Low = 111 High = 40734

Type 2 (Thin)

Low = 50993 High = 51592

Medal for the 25th Anniversary MPR

Type 1 (SN stamped)

Low = 8360 High = 20008

Type 2 (No SN)

unnumbered

Edited October 21, 2005 by Eric Schena

[Gerd Becker]

Eric,

fantastic info. Thanks so much for posting this list

Gerd

[Ed_Haynes]

Great stuff, Eric. Thanks. Let us see what we can add . . . .

Maybe when we have dates on known serial numbers, more blankc can be filled in the gaping holes in our knowledge.

[Guest Rick Research]

Yup, so far I think we only have Ed's and the two in my Orders Book:

Sukhbator:

#158 = 24 October 1957 (EH Group 1)

#423 = 28 November 1962 (EH Group 1)

Red Banner of Labor:

#621 = 17 November 1951 (EH Group 1)

Polar Star:

#822 = 23 September 1936 (EH Group 1)

#1,956 = 29 Novenber 1955 (yes, this and #2,705 ARE correctly if inexploicably dated) (EH Group 1)

#2,705 = 8 Decmebr 1948 (yes, this and #1,956 ARE correctly if inexplicably dated) (EH Group 1)

Military Merit Order:

#1,049 = 1 October 1959 (RL Orders Book 1)

Military Merit Medal:

#5,228 = 24 July 1954 (RL Orders Book 1)

[Ed_Haynes]

Add to Rick's list:

Hero of Labor "Gold Soyombo" Medal (type 1) -- #52, 28 November 1962 (EH Group 1)

[Ed_Haynes]

Miscellaneous things:

1- Those three tricky Polar Stars:

#822 = 23 September 1936 (EH Group 1)

As I read Battushig and reconcile it with Eric's list, this would have been Schena Type 1 (Battushig A31), the double red banner type, 1936-40.

#1,956 = 29 Novenber 1955 (yes, this and #2,705 ARE correctly if inexploicably dated) (EH Group 1)

As I read Battushig and reconcile it with Eric's list, this would have been Schena Type 3 (Battushig A32.2), with Cyrillic legend (1941-70).

#2,705 = 8 Decmebr 1948 (yes, this and #1,956 ARE correctly if inexplicably dated) (EH Group 1)

Same as above? Or was this a late Schena Type 2.2 award?! Battushig shows his A32.1 (Mongol legend) as 1940-41 and A32.2 (Cyrillic) as 1941-70, but . . .?

Now, more than ever, I wish Suuigiyn Gombo's Polar Stars were still with his group!

2- My other (single) RBL (shown as http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2499&st=19 in the "Mongolian Awards" thread) is #484 and is Eric's Type 1.

3- The numbering on my three Honorary Medal(s) of Labor:

No. 550 (Schena Type 1, Battushig ??)

3842 (Schena Type 1.2, Battushig A38.1)

18531 (Schena 2.1, Battushig A38.2)

Shown below.

Edited October 21, 2005 by Ed_Haynes

[Vatjan]

Hi guys,

This is the info I have gathered over the last few years for mongolian award date-numbers.

Please keep in mind that the Mongolians used a different calender from 1921 until +-1946.

They started counting from their indepence from China, after the fall of the Qing Empire, in 1911.

1911 was year 1, so if you find order booklets with entries for orders for the year 35, it is actually a 1945 award.

First off the Order of the Polar Star:

T1

185/1804 1936 Voroshilov, Kliment E., Marshal USSR (later n? a replacement?)

T2

1225 6/09/1944 Jundendoo Ravdangijn

2265 3/11/1945 (T2 booklet)

T3

88 6/07/1946 Zhamba Horloo

2946 8/07/1950 Zhamba Horloo

2506 30/12/1956

3079 16/01/1957 Zhamba Horloo

3917 30/12/1956 Gombogn, Gazhuur, received also Sukhe Bator # 470

6133 16/02/1956 Ajoum Sanzh

9013 14/12/1957

9138 14/07/1960 Jundendoo Ravdangijn

11611 00/03/1966 group 7

13376 1/12/1969

14236 3/07/1971 Mohndat Shadav

14718 12/03/1973 Sanj, Gombojav

T4

15860 3/07/1971 group 17

19735 1/12/1979

25483 3/04/1980 Surengin, Damdin

27017 3/07/1991 Damdin, Zurman

28321 18/04/1995 Nalmid, Daibalbar

31529 21/11/2001 Tumendemberel Namjil

Edited November 10, 2005 by vatjan

[Ed_Haynes]

Thanks for this - more facts for the mill.

[Vatjan]

Sukhbaatar Order

1 1941 I.V. Stalin

10/07/1941 Choibalsan, Khorloo (with HS MPR)

20/09/1945 Choibalsan, Khorloo (with 2nd HS MPR)

26/09/1945 Dampil, Samgijn (with HS MPR)

26/09/1945 Danzanvanchig, Dashijn (with HS MPR)

24 1946 Voroshilov, Kliment Efremovitsh, Marshal USSR

17/12/1949 Stalin, I.V. (with HS MPR)

31 1949 Berija, Lavrentij Pavlovitsh, Marshal USSR

158 1957 Suuigiyn Gombo

166 29/05/1957 Voroshilov, Kliment Efremovitsh, Marshal USSR (with HS MPR)

340 1961 Malinovskij, Rodion Jakolevitsh, Marshal USSR

341 1961 Zaharov, Matvej Vasilevitsh, Marshal USSR

342 1961 Rokossovskij, Konstantin Konstantinovitsh, Marshal USSR

343 1961 Budennyij, Semen Mihailovitsh, Marshal USSR

344 1961 Konev, Ivan Stepanovitsh, Marshal USSR

12/12/1961 Titov, Gherman Stepanovich (Pilot cosmonaut USSR)

13/07/1962 Nekhiit, Jadambiin (with HS MPR)

423 1962 Suuigiyn Gombo (with Labor Hero)

470 13/12/1963 Gombogn, Gazhuur, received also Polar Star # 3917

00/10/1964 "Revolutionary Mongolia" tank Guards Brigade

00/05/1965 Tereshkova, Valentina Vladimirovna, Pilot cosmonaut USSR (with Labor Hero)

31/05/1965 Nikolayev, Andriyan Grigorievitch (Pilot cosmonaut USSR, with HS MPR)

16/09/1966 Tsedenbal, Y (with HS MPR)

541 1966 Bagramjan, Ivan Hristoforovitsh, Marshal USSR

542 1966 Vasilevskij, Aleksandr Mihailovitsh, Marshal USSR

558 1966 Brezhnev, Leonid Ilitsh, Marshal USSR

18/08/1967 Belyaev, Pavel Ivanovich, Pilot cosmonaut USSR (with HS MPR)

20/04/1968 Tito, Josip Broz

14/06/1968 Badam, B., Private MPA (with HS MPR)

586 1968 Gretshko, Andrei Andropovitsh, Marshal USSR

588 1968 Jakubovskij, Ivan Ignatevitsh, Marshal USSR

589 1968 Zaharov, Matvej Vasilevitsh Marshal USSR

591 1968 Zhukov, Georgij Konstantinovitsh, Marshal USSR

612 10/11/1968 Willy Stoph (DDR)

642 12/08/1969 Zhukov, Georgij Konstantinovitsh, Marshal USSR (with HS MPR)

18/08/1969 Dugarjav, Ch., Lt Colonel MPA (with HS MPR)

18/08/1969 Kayankhyarvaa, D. (with HS MPR)

692 1969 Tshujkov, Vasilij Ivanovitsh, Marshal USSR

12/03/1971 Chogdon, P. Lt Colonel MPA (with HS MPR)

12/03/1971 Nyantaisuren, D., Colonel MPA (with HS MPR)

1/07/1971 Gobatko, V.V., Pilot cosmonaut USSR (with HS MPR)

803 5/07/1971 Konev, Ivan Stepanovitsh, Marshal USSR 1971 (with HS MPR)

5/07/1971 Pliev, I.A., Army General USSR (with HS MPR)

5/07/1971 Sudets, V.A., Marshal Ait Force USSR (with HS MPR)

919 1971 Brezhnev, Leonid Ilitsh, Marshal USSR

922 1971 Vasilevskij, Aleksandr Mihailovitsh, Marshal USSR

923 1971 Gretshko, Andrei Antonovitsh, Marshal USSR

924 1971 Jakubovskij, Ivan Ignatevitsh, Marshal USSR

925 1971 Zaharov, Matvej Vasilevitsh Marshal USSR

927 1971 Sokolov, Sergei Leonidovitsh, Marshal USSR

928 1971 Moskalenko, Kirill Semenovitsh, Marshal USSR

931 1971 Krylov, Nikolaj Ivanovitsh Marshal USSR

932 1971 Batitskij, Pavel Fedorovitsh, Marshal USSR

933 1971 Gorshkov, Sergej Georgievitsh, Fleet Admiral USSR

937 1971 Zhukov, Georgij Konstantinovitsh, Marshal USSR

10/10/1972 Rukavishnikov, N.N., Pilot cosmonaut USSR (with HS MPR)

12/09/1973 Guulin, D., Private MPA (with HS MPR)

989 1973 Budennyij, Semen Mihailovitsh, Marshal USSR

16/09/1974 Dorj, B., Army General MPA (with HS MPR)

15/07/1975 Fedyuninskii, I.I., General USSR (with HS MPR)

2/09/1975 Janchiv, M. (with HS MPR)

1123 1975 Ustinov, Dimitrij Fedorovitsh, Marshal USSR

1255 14/12/1975 Brezhnev, Leonid Ilitsh, Marshal USSR (with HS MPR)

1335 1978 Ustinov, Dimitrij Fedorovitsh, Marshal USSR

19/02/1979 Kosygin, A.N. (with HS MPR)

18/08/1979 Jambaa, N. Sergeant MPA (with HS MPR)

18/08/1979 Tumurbaatar, S., Lt Colonel MPA (with HS MPR)

18/08/1979 Ekey, M., Lieutenant MPA (with HS MPR)

13/03/1981 Tsog, B., Colonel General MPA (with HS MPR)

31/03/1981 Gurragchaa, J., Cosmonaut MPA (with HS MPR)

31/03/1981 Dzhanibekov, Vladimir Alexandrovich, Pilot cosmonaut USSR (with HS MPR)

1462 8/06/1981 Ustinov, Dimitrij Fedorovitsh, Marshal USSR (with HS MPR)

1463 1981 Ogarkov, Nikolaj Vasilevitsh, Marshal USSR

1465 1981 Petrov, Vasilij Ivanovitsh, Marshal USSR

1491 9/07/1981 Gongor Haltar

22/10/1981 Kovalenko, Vladimir Vasilievich, Pilot cosmonaut USSR (with HS MPR)

22/10/1981 Savinykh, V.P., Pilot cosmonaut USSR (with HS MPR)

1530 1981 Kulikov, Viktor Giorgievitsh, Marshal USSR

1532 1981 Ahromeev, Sergej Fedorovitsh, Marshal USSR

1548 1981 Brezhnev, Leonid Ilitsh, Marshal USSR

1562 1981 Kurkotkin, Semen Konstantinovitsh Marshal USSR

15/08/1984 Shiileg, E. (with HS MPR)

1984 Nyam-Osoryn Tsultem, Artist

1985 Duudei, T., (with HS MPR)

1715 1986 Sokolov, Sergei Leonidovitsh, Marshal USSR

198x Kizim, Leonid Denisovich, Pilot cosmonaut USSR

198x Lyakhov, Vladimir Afanasyevich, Pilot cosmonaut USSR

1991 Bazarvaani, Choidon, Artist

1996 Nyam-Osoryn Tsultem, Artist

2000 Nyam-Osoryn Tsultem, Artist (with Labor Hero)

18/03/2005 Molomjamts, L., Director Strategy Institute of the Ministry of Defense

8/07/2005 Lkhagvadorj, N., Controller of the "Ganguur" Company (with Labor Hero)

Edited November 10, 2005 by vatjan

[Vatjan]

Mother's Glory order

MGO 1

5396 16/02/1965 Darnsaa, Pagainsav

8128 1/03/1967 Jogibodorzh, Borhuu

11608 13/02/1970 Badamjav Yanjinlkham

21460 25/01/1975

24179 20/02/1976 Lodonsharav Mandakhvayar

31252 22/02/1978

34361 23/02/1980 Jadamba Senden

43883 00/03/1984

45130 25/02/1981

MGO 2

543 29/05/1958

9195 25/06/1958 Dashtshuvog, Suran

13892 10/10/1958 Davzav, Goloshpsav

23451 25/02/1960 Daiba, Doljumn

25633 2/03/1961

29451 25/02/1962

77748 17/02/1972 Lodonsharav Mandakhvayar

77962 17/02/1972 Jadamba Senden

84187 22/02/1973

116403 00/00/1978

120901 27/02/1980 Hishgee, Haltar

187862 22/05/1995

191632 00/5/1997 Bupaev, Lhensuren

[Vatjan]

You're welcome Ed, will post more later

Jan

[Ed_Haynes]

I think I know, but which decoration's list started with Stalin as #1?

[Vatjan]

I think I know, but which decoration's list started with Stalin as #1?

Yes I was going to quickly.

It's the Sukhbaatar, I already edited the post.

[Vatjan]

Allow me to make a few "corrections" and additions to Eric's info.

Medal "Gold Star" of Honorary Freeman of MPR

According to Battushig, only Brezhnev was awarded with this order, a second one may have been made at the same time.

Order of Sukhe Bator

Type 1 (Screwback)

Low = 158

Type 2 (pinback)

High = 2006

Order of Red Banner of Military Valor

1st award

Type 1.1 (МОНДВОР mintmark; 3 rivets)

Low = 110 High = ?

Type 1.2 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 3 rivets)

Low= 44 High=212

Type 1.3.1 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 4 rivets; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom)

Low = 306 High = 2401

Type 1.3.2 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 4 rivets; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 1240 High = 2581

Order of Combat Red Banner

1st award

Type 1 (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost)

Low = 98

Order of Labor Glory / Order of the Red Banner of Industrialization

Type 1.1 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; SN at 12 o'clock)

Low = 370

Order of Labor Red Banner

Type 1 (Screwback)

High = 3712

Type 2 (Pinback)

Low = 4029 High = 6772

Order of Military Merit

Type 1.1 (Screwback; flat reverse; 5 rivets)

Low = 101 High = 840

Type 2 (Pinback)

Low = 6036

Order of the Polar Star

Type 1 (Screwback; МОНДВОР mintmark; long oval design)

Low = 701

Type 2.1 (Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom)

Low = 99

Type 2.2 (Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 1617 High = 1861

Type 3.1 (Screwback; Cyrillic; slightly concave reverse; SN at 7 o'clock)

Low = 88 High = 6952

Type 3.3 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN at 6 o'clock)

Low = 10007 High = 15000

Type 4 (Pinback)

High = 30409

Medal for Military Merit

Type 1.1 (Ribboned screwback suspension; SN with "No." prefix)

Low = 316

Type 2.1 (Ribboned pinback suspension; SN hand engraved)

Low = 3151 High = ? This is old information from my part, I have a pic of this medal, but I have never seen a second one, and I now believe it is a Type 1.2 medal with a replacement Type 2 suspension

Type 3.1 (Enameled pinback suspension; SN rotating tool engraved)

Low = 18071

Honorary Labor Medal

Type 1.1 (Ribboned screwback suspension; Uighur; SN with "No." prefix)

Low = 214 High = 985

Type 1.2.1 (Ribboned screwback suspension; Uighur; SN without prefix, seperately soldered ring)

Low = 1569 High = 11953

Type 1.2.2 (Ribboned screwback suspension; Uighur; SN with "No" prefix above the SN)

Low = 10663 High = 10668

Type 1.2.3 (Ribboned screwback suspension; Uighur; SN without prefix, ring part of the medal)

Low = 12001 High = 16519

Type 2.1 (Ribboned pinback suspension; Cyrillic; SN stamped)

Low = 16785 High = 21354

Type 2.2 (Ribboned pinback suspension; Cyrillic; SN rotating tool engraved)

High = 35869

Type 3 (Enameled pinback suspension; SN rotating tool engraved)

Low = 737 High = 4892

Type 4 (Enameled pinback suspension; SN rotating tool engraved; aluminum) IS THE SAME AS TYPE 3 , was a mistake from my part, there is no such thing as aluminum HLM's

Medal for Selflessness/Medal for Distinction in Prodtecting Public Order

Type 2.1 (Two red bands and one blue band; SN rotating tool engraved)

High = 1232

Medal for the 25th Anniversary MPR

Type 1.1 (SN stamped / "FAT" XXV letters )

Low = 159 High = 8904

Type 1.1 (SN stamped / "SLIM" XXV letters )

Low = 10327 High = 20008

Hope this helps

Jan

[Guest Rick Research]

Ohhhhhhhhhh yes!

It is obvious that many awards which have been offered for sale as "World War Two" period are actually decades later. This sort of detailed, specific, and most important ACCURATE numbers-to-dates information is absolutely essential to our understanding of actual awards over time in Mongolia.

We are MUCH obliged for all your research effort!

[Ed_Haynes]

Wow!

Thanks, Jan.

Much to ponder . . . .

(Wish I could persuade Dr. B to come on the forum!)

[Eric Schena]

Welcome Jan! Hope you didn't mind me posting that data earlier. Thank you so much for your additions - the pool of knowledge is fuller because of it

Cheers,

Eric

[Eric Schena]

...and just to keep this stuff together on one thread...

Order of Sukhebataar #1404 22 Oct 1980

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLIAN-ORDER-BOOKLE...1QQcmdZViewItem

Medal for Military Merit #2127 20 August 1951

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLIAN-1951YEAR-ORD...1QQcmdZViewItem

Medal for Military Merit unnumbered 31 March 1987

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLIAN-1987-YEAR-OR...1QQcmdZViewItem

Medal for Labor Honor unnumbered February 1977

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLIAN-1977-YEAR-OR...1QQcmdZViewItem

Order of the Polar Star #4852 6 November 1956

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLIAN-1956-YEAR-OR...1QQcmdZViewItem

Order of the Labor Red Banner #4688 no date specified

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLIAN-ORDER-BOOKLE...1QQcmdZViewItem

Order of Maternal Glory 2nd Class #195713 5 October 2000 (if I read the date right)

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLIAN-ORDER-OF-MAT...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Vatjan]

Eric, no problem, I think it's important to share info.

You mention a few SN's that are would new high's or low's for my list.

I will PM you the details.

Do you have pics of the orders you put into your list, as a kind of "proof"?

Jan

[Guest Rick Research]

Our earlier thread showing what we had was

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2499

[Vatjan]

Just to continue the series :

Combat Merit Order

aka War Merit Order

aka Military Merit Order

1049: 1/10/1959

2146: 00/06/1969

2695: 1972 Kuznetsov, Nikolaj Gerasimovitsh, Fleet Admiral USSR

2777: 1971 Petrov, Vasilij Ivanovitsh, Marshal USSR

5685: 27/03/1987

6515: 4/07/1991 Daramzhav, Radnaashjn

8126: 9/08/1999 Nanzivdarn Dendev

Edited November 25, 2005 by vatjan

[Vatjan]

Red Banner of Labour order

621: 17/11/1951 Suuigiyn Gombo

1039: 16/02/1956 Dolgor, Nasan

5826: 00/00/1987 Batsukhin, Bayasaikhan

6238: 15/04/1993 Bamyn Dojuu

Edited November 25, 2005 by vatjan

[Vatjan]

Hero of Labour of the MPR

1: 1956 Davaajav, D., Coal Miner

52: 28/11/1962 Suuigiyn Gombo

00/05/1965 Tereshkova, Valentina Vladimirovna (Pilot cosmonaut USSR)

Tsedenbal, Yumjaa

250: 1981 Brezhnev, Leonid Ilitsh, Marshal USSR

2000 Nyam-Osoryn Tsultem, Artist

8/07/2005 Lkhagvadorj, N., Controller of the "Ganguur" Company

[Vatjan]

And, a last one, just to show what a mess the Polar Star Order awardings cause:

If catalogued chronologically this is what we get

88 6/07/1946

822 23/09/1946

1956 8/12/1948

2705 8/12/1948

4958 8/12/1948

2946 8/07/1950

1956 29/11/1955

6133 16/02/1956

4832 6/11/1956

2506 30/12/1956

3917 30/12/1956

3079 16/01/1957

9013 14/12/1957

9138 14/07/1960

11611 00/03/1966

13376 23/10/1969

14236 3/07/1971

Edited November 25, 2005 by vatjan

[Guest Rick Research]

Wellll, you must agree that translating something as "Combat" when there was no combat and "War" when there was no war is not accurate. Just one of my personal translation crusades. I'm RIGHT about "Zasluga" versus "Sluzhba" for "Merit" versus "Service" in Russian mis-translations, after all, even if native speakers still insist on getting that WRONG!

Polar Stars numbers are a MESS!!!!!!