seb16trs Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 gentlemen, I need yours opinions. I have the opportunity to save a 3 orders group (brotherhood 2nd, merit to the people 3, bravery) all documented, with box and ribon, for one woman. Would it be a good set? I'm puzzled the person got the fraternity and bravery on the same date...many thanks, sebastien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 any hints gentlemen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 gentlemen, I need yours opinions. I have the opportunity to save a 3 orders group (brotherhood 2nd, merit to the people 3, bravery) all documented, with box and ribon, for one woman. Would it be a good set? I'm puzzled the person got the fraternity and bravery on the same date...Dear Sebastien,I guess, that's not an untypical group:Bravery & Brotherhood 2cl are most likely (catch-up) WW II awards (a wide range of Red Army officers received the Brotherhood 2cl ...) and the Merit 3cl might be for a jubilee in the (civil) job - i.e.: 25 years for being a "political correct" civil servant or so.The Partisan Star in it's 3 classes had been rather rare and I guess, that most of the comrades (male & female) got Brotherhood and/or bravery for taking part in the war against Nazi-Germany - in a rather wide range of functions and positions.Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 hello Christian, your hypothesis could be correct...(PS: thanks to the moderator to have cleant and put my post at the right place ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) finally, I went across the Rubicon.And I saved a group from (another?) split. It came from the recent San Giorgio auction, being divided into 3 lots. By chance, nobody saw nor gave interest to the diplomas, giving the same woman as an awardee.Thanks to Mr. Calabrezi , I tried th purchase. I don't think it is a bad thing; everything seems to be coherent. Edited December 28, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 close-up: Brotherhood and Merit are silver-type and hallmarked; the Bravery order is a nice ZIN type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 and reverses: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMaestro Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hi Sebastien,That is a nice looking group! Congratulations not only on a great find, but for keeping a group together! That is always deserving of special praise! -Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Dear Sebastien,congratulations to your YU-group Try to start to research about that "Olga Ivcovic" (?) .According to her awards, she should had been a member of the Communist Party. If you couldn't find anything about her (try also the cyrillic option at Google!) in the www, then maybe in the archives of the the former party (SPS ?).Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 I found such a name in a communist-yougoslavia dedicated croat forum; they were quotingan official book of the period. Maybe a person who hosted partisans in Zagreb, and helped networks between Slovenia and Croatia.But the probability of homonym is extremly high. :catjava: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valter Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 A very nice and totally correct group! And the reason, why two orders were awarded so closely together: yugoslav orders/medals were mostly awarded on national holidays, and 4th July was Resistance fighter's day (Dan borca) - no wonder on that day MANY partisan veterans were awarded, especially in the early years after the war. She was probably "missed" or "skipped" in the first days after the victory, so she got these two together to correct the "mistake" - a common practice. To the contrast, most peace-time military service awards (ie. Military merit order and medal, Order of people's army) you'll find awarded around 22nd december, which was the Army day (Dan JNA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 many thanks for your feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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