Turkey Turkish star?

[TerryG]

Someone has expressed some doubts about the origin and age of this star so I would like some opinions. It seems that it is a one-piece construction, i.e. the crescent is part of the body of the star and not "added".

[TerryG]

another view

[TerryG]

Another strange thing is that one arm is badly bent....

[TerryG]

........but the enamel has not cracked. I have a few other Stars where the enamel has cracked although the arms are not bent so I assume that the enamel is very fragile. In this case, the enamel was souple or elastic enough to cope with the excessive bending.

[Guest Rick Research]

FRONT and BACK would help more than edges....

[TerryG]

Head on view. Bent arm is the one on the left.

[TerryG]

FRONT and BACK would help more than edges....

Natural light is fading here. I will try again with the flash

[TerryG]

with the flash

[TerryG]

Hasn't anybody got any views on this one?

[TerryG]

Is it something I said or is it my after-shave? No response?

Anyway, I dug out my other Stars to answer a question on another thread and noticed that I have 2 more stars which appear much flatter than others like BB and AWS..., i.e. a one piece construction without an "added" crescent. Here they are: one is enameled (described as "strawberry") and the other is the painted version. So have I answered my own question, this is an accepted construction?

Edited January 30, 2009 by TerryG

[TerryG]

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[Chris Boonzaier]

Could the enamle have been done AFTER the bending? i.e. it came from the factory like that?

[TerryG]

Could the enamle have been done AFTER the bending? i.e. it came from the factory like that?

Thanks Chris. No it was a shipping problem very recently

[Robin Lumsden]

The star in question looks perfectly good to me.

[TerryG]

Thanks Robin. The thing that amazes me is the fact that despite this very severe bending of one arm, the enamel has not cracked. I did not expect this at all.

[Ulsterman]

#11 looks a lot like the star in the Goeben officer's picture (under magnification).

[Guest Rick Research]

I've been out hammering ice sheets off my roof (the people across the street have had their 2 year old new roof destroyed by this unending record breaking "global warming") so occasionally I am losing track of things of late, what with the spots in front of my vision and only 2 uninjured fingers to type with....

Looks to me like the wearer ever so carefully bent that outside arm of the star facing his right arm so it fitted more snugly against his tunic. These things must have SNAGGED like crazy, especially given most Germans inclination to wear them every day because of their appearance.

No clue as to the make. The horizontal pin is odd since most non-Turkish made ones seem to have used normal upright pins.

[TerryG]

Looks to me like the wearer ever so carefully bent that outside arm of the star facing his right arm so it fitted more snugly against his tunic. These things must have SNAGGED like crazy, especially given most Germans inclination to wear them every day because of their appearance.

Thanks Rick but the bending occured during shipping. The star left one country intact and reached me with a bent arm. These are certainly not soft, far from it! How this occured, I have no idea but there is no way I could or would bend it back. We have all seen stars with bits of enamel missing, result I guess of a knock or a slight bend. In this case, the bending is extreme but the enamel is still intact. This is what prompted my friend to raise doubts about the age of the star .....