Laurence Strong Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 What's the first medal on this chain?Many thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Newman Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Looks like the WWI version of the Bulgarian Military Order for Bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Bulgarian Bravery Order IV Class either as mini of a pinback IV/1 or a ribboned IV/2:I'd say since there are YEARS on its arms, it is meant as a Kleindekoration of the pinback Class. Is the Ernestine House Order next to it GOLD or SILVER? That is very VERY important to know absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Could we have a look at the reverse of the Ernestine and the Bulgarian crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted February 13, 2009 Author Share Posted February 13, 2009 Thanks to all :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Cole Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Aren't those minis in the wrong order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 No, they're from right to left as usual in those civilan style chains, as well on civil style "tuxedo" bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Cole Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 OH, I thought it would have went EK, Meck, SE, Hind, then Bulgarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 First of all - there is no Mecklenburg on the chain , it is Braunschweig KVK2Second - it is in absolute correct order for a mid 1930s mini chain : EK (nearly always N?1) , Frontfighters cross (some kind of "general" "all state" german ww1 combat award) in front of the state awards , in this case from Braunschweig and Sachsen Herzogt?mer and then the real foreign awards , in this case Bulgaria.Third - the Bulgaria pinback order is a real beauty !!! :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 No-- the Hindenburg is in circa 1934-36 incorrect precedence ahead of the "local" WW1 awards due to a mistaken interpretation of it as a "Reichs" award taking precedence over the smaller states' bravery awards. It should be EK, EH3(a?b?)X, BrK (or vice versa if the recipient was a native of Brunswick), FKEK, Bulgarian... which is why THIS way dates it circa 1935. The combination Ernestine and Brunswick with no OTHER awards is quite odd and the class of Ernestine is important. I can't tell from the patina which class it is. Ernestines were bestowed by the rank of the recipient, which is a clue to the wearer's identity. The Bulgarian awards are vaguer-- either degree of valor displayed or whether Ferdinand liked the recipient's looks. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 really??? I have seen more bars and chains with FKEK in front of the state awards than the other way - but of course I believe you.... :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Cole Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 "First of all - there is no Mecklenburg on the chain , it is Braunschweig KVK2."that was a total bonehead mistake on my part! A case of engaging fingers before engaging brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 No-- the Hindenburg is in circa 1934-36 incorrect precedence ahead of the "local" WW1 awards due to a mistaken interpretation of it as a "Reichs" award taking precedence over the smaller states' bravery awards. It should be EK, EH3(a?b?)X, BrK (or vice versa if the recipient was a native of Brunswick), FKEK, Bulgarian... which is why THIS way dates it circa 1935.And what if... the wearer should have been neither from Brunswick nor from Altenburg, Meiningen and Coburg or Gotha?! Then it would be the proper way, wouldn't it?-- either degree of valor displayed or whether Ferdinand liked the recipient's looks. Yeah, that's how we know him... :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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