Bill Garvy Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Personal file. . . Edited March 2, 2009 by Bill Garvy
Bill Garvy Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Personal file. . . Edited March 2, 2009 by Bill Garvy
Bill Garvy Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 Personal file. . . Last entry. . .Your thoughts, comments, & observations are welcome , as well as any help with translating these documents. . .Thank you, in advance. . .
Eric B Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Nice group, thanks! Will love to read the translations.One thing, the second award is a medal "For Bravery," though I've also seen it called a medal "For Valor." The Combat Service Medal is the medal sometimes called a Medal for Military Merit.
Bill Garvy Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Oops! Thanks, Eric! I was able to edit & correct my mistakes. . . Edited March 2, 2009 by Bill Garvy
Paul R Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 That is one great set!! Thank you for sharing it with us! I await the translations as well!
Ferdinand Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Nice group. The citation on the previous page is for his Glory 3rd.
Bill Garvy Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks, Ferdinand! Are you able to translate the citation, please. . .
Ferdinand Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) "Comrade Lunin is a participant in the Patriotic War since 15 June 1942. In the period of the Patriotic War he suffered 2 wounds and 1 contusion.1. On 30 August 1942 he suffered a light contusion near the city of Stalingrad.2. On 15 January 1943 he was heavily wounded in his right foot near the station of Divnoye.3. On 14 September 1943 he was heavily wounded in his right hip near the station Anastasiyevsky (in Kuban).On 14 September 1943, during the offensive at the "Blue Line", being the assistent commander of the platoon, he sent his men forward, broke into the enemy trenches, threw grenades and killed 13 German soldiers.Is deserving of the government award "Order of Glory 3rd Class".The commander of the 897th Mountain Rifle Sevastopol RegimentGuards Colonel [signed Serov] /Serov/5 September 1947Is deserving of the government award "Order of Glory 3rd Class".The commander of the 242nd Mountain Rifle Taman Red Banner DivisionMajor-General [signed Lisinov]7 September 1944Is deserving of the government award "Order of Glory 3rd Class".The commander of the 3rd Mountain Rifle CorpsGuards Major-General [signed Vedenin] /Vedenin/10 September 1944"About Lisinov: http://www.generals.dk/general/Lisinov/Vik...viet_Union.htmlAbout Vedenin: http://www.generals.dk/general/Vedenin/And...viet_Union.html Edited March 4, 2009 by Ferdinand
Bill Garvy Posted March 5, 2009 Author Posted March 5, 2009 Very compelling; thank you very much, Ferdinand!
Guest Rick Research Posted March 7, 2009 Posted March 7, 2009 Quite interesting. His personnel file shows that he was demobilized "to the reserves" on 31 March 1947 as a Junior Lieutenant. That also says he was a student at the "Kiev" (SIC) Infantry School in 1946 when the stamps on both his campaign medals show he was at the Kharkov Infantry School. No wonder the eager gremlins of The Organs combing through files could always find something to "aha!" on Comrades. Now... here we get into NEGATIVE evidence.He was discharged in March 1947 from the ARMY, having been a tank platoon commander in an infantry regiment during the war...Yet he has an absolutely spot-on 10 years service Military Merit Medal in 1952. Which means he was in a "militarized" uniform wearing service NOT the army. MVD? I believe the civil police (militia) were also getting the usual long service awards at that time, also. Or State Security?My best guess would be civil police for an ex-soldier.The Red Star is 3 years early for CORRECT long service... but we've seen weird things like this from time to time. Unfortunately it isn't in his ARMY file-- but it might be worth trying research on that, as well.It is absolutely a 30 April 1954 mass long service award Ukaz serial number... but for him that was after only 12 years service.SOMETHING related to Ministry of the Interior uniformed service-- and presumably up to at least Senior Lieutenant by then. Meanwhile, he got the FIRST class OPW jubilee, not the 2nd. That indicates either he'd become rated as a war invalid, or he was a General-- take your pick! :cheeky:
Bill Garvy Posted March 8, 2009 Author Posted March 8, 2009 Thank you for your thorough analysis, Rick. I am inclined to get the Red Star researched inasmuch as none of the documents that came with this group make mention of it. . .
Bill Garvy Posted May 22, 2009 Author Posted May 22, 2009 I regret to report nothing was found in the archives regarding this Order of the Red Star.
Guest Rick Research Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 OK, so Podolsk verifies he was not in the ARMY in the mid 1950s. I think we can scratch the navy as a REAL stretch--so that leaves MVD (militarized "interior troops" OR civil police) or KGB, neither of whose long service awards would be in the army archives.KGB would seem an unusual career shift... so we're back to possibly-to-probably MVD of one variety or another. Too bad no 1958 long service medal which would have made that clear without any mystery!
Bill Garvy Posted May 22, 2009 Author Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Thank you, Rick, for your astute deduction! It certainly narrows things down a bit. . . Edited May 22, 2009 by Bill Garvy
Guest Rick Research Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Now... if we knew where the MVD archive was and how to get THEIR records in these Troubled Times....
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