Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 Again, translations would be welcome. POLAND - Cross of Valour 1920 1968
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 I seem to have gotten a number of these while I was working in the Pentagon, right before I went to Viet Nam. POLAND - Cross of Merit, gold 1968
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 Would you expect to see serial numbers on the reverse of these?Reverse POLAND - Cross of Merit, gold 1968
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 POLAND ? Medal of the Armed Forces in the Service of the Fatherland (Medal Siły Zbrojne w Słuźbie Ojczyzny - Armed Forces LS & GC ? 5 Years) I. S. Wright, 2/01
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 Reverse POLAND ? Medal of the Armed Forces in the Service of the Fatherland (Medal Siły Zbrojne w Słuźbie Ojczyzny - Armed Forces LS & GC ? 5 Years) I. S. Wright, 2/01
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 Reverse POLAND - Monte Cassino Cross London 1986
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) POLAND - Bojownikom Niepodleglosci (Independence Medal) London 1986 Edited July 19, 2009 by Hugh
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 Reverse POLAND - Bojownikom Niepodleglosci (Independence Medal) London 1986
Hugh Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 Reverse POLAND - Partisan's Cross, EF S. Vernon, 5/93
Hugh Posted July 20, 2009 Author Posted July 20, 2009 POLAND - World War II Campaign Cross w/ bar "Arnhem", post-Communist issue SB Vernon, Temecula, 2/93
Hugh Posted July 20, 2009 Author Posted July 20, 2009 POLAND - World War II Campaign Cross w/ bar "Arnhem", post-Communist issue SB Vernon, Temecula, 2/93
RobW Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) A White Lion in the paw is very possibly the most beautiful Order ever made.You have GOT to lose the stickers!!!! "32" is for the regiment, but don't remember whether that indicates Italian or French army. I had the Czech language book years ago explaining all this (in Czech ) but it moved on. My Revolutionary Cross had no device at all, but what I remember is that it was hollow, with the front and back sides bent together showing poorly fitted gaps in the sides. Is yours like that? Have never seen another Czech award made that way.To Rick Research,Could I assume that the handy Czech reference book (in the Czech language) is either:"Československ? Vyznamen?n?, 1918-1938, Vol 1, Měřička Vacl?v, 1973" or"Československ? Vyznamen?n?, 1918-1948, Vol 1, Ludv?k Suken?k & Vlastislav Novotn?, 1997"I have a copy of the 1997 edition, as shown, and it is a truly wonderful reference book. Further details re the Czech Revolutionary Cross/Medal to follow.Regards,Rob Edited July 24, 2009 by RobW
RobW Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) CZECHOSLOVAKIA ? Revolutionary Cross 1914-18 with numeral "32", EFWhat's the significance of the "32" device? I . S. Wright, Sydney, 1998Hello Hugh,In answer to your question, and to echo the reply of 'Rick Research' the number on the ribbon of the Czech Revolutionary Cross/Medal is the number of the regiment and/or Czech Legion the participant served in. There were a number of different numbered devices depending on where the recipient served.The shields with numbers relate to the following regiments-legions and locations:a. Russian Legion - 1-12b. French Legion - 21-24c. Italian Legion - 31-35 and 39In additional to the regimental numbers there were a number of named shields and bars that indicated action participation as follows:a. ČD (Česk? dru?ina or Czech Brigade)b. L.E. (L?gion ?trang?re or Foreign Legion).c. Russian Legion - ZBOROV, BACHMAČ, SIBIŘ.d. French Legion - ALSACE, ARGONNE, PERONNE.e. Italian Legion - DOSS' ALTO, PIAVE.d. Those in Serbia - S or SERBIE.There are numerous reproductions of these bars with original ones considered quite rare. What complicates matters is that some original manufacturers have also produced recent versions as well so it is quite difficult to differentiate repro from original.There were also four different versions produced as follows:a. Type 1 ? Bronze cross 1918-19, stamped AB (as in your example).b. Type 2 ? Light bronze 1920-38,c. Type 3 ? Dark bronze 1920-38.d. Type 4 - Bronze 1920-38 without stamping. In regards the Order of the White Lion, Commander's Cross for Civil (3rd Class) ? 1st Type, Neck badge, the makers mark 'KK' belongs to the Prague firm of Karnet and Kysely. It was the biggest Czech medal producer before 1948, and produced all manner of Czech orders and decorations, including a re-issue of the Czech Victory medal.Pictures to follow.I hope that this helps. Regards,Rob Edited July 24, 2009 by RobW
RobW Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Revolutionary CrossSpecimen with multiple ribbon devices. Type with 'AB' stamping.Regards,Rob Edited July 24, 2009 by RobW
RobW Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Single location bar. Type with 'AB' stamping. Edited July 24, 2009 by RobW
RobW Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Type with single regiment shield, with 'AB' stamping.Hope this is of use.Regards,Rob Edited July 24, 2009 by RobW
Hugh Posted July 24, 2009 Author Posted July 24, 2009 What a treasure trove of information! Thanks so much. I couldn't quite tell from your writeup. Is Rick's hollow piece one of the normal issue?Thanks,Hugh
Hugh Posted July 24, 2009 Author Posted July 24, 2009 More is always asked of he who helps - Is there a precedence list in the book?
RobW Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 What a treasure trove of information! Thanks so much. I couldn't quite tell from your writeup. Is Rick's hollow piece one of the normal issue?Thanks,HughHugh,Happy to be of help!I have not seen such a type either in my collection (4 pieces) or through my hands. All the pieces I've had or seen, have been one piece struck medals with very good detail and certainly not two piece and joined together, and they were of the early type (marked AB) as well as the later issues so I'm at a loss there. In addition, I've inquired with a number of other collectors in Sydney who have not seen such a hollow two piece type. Just because it hasn't been seen doesn't mean it isn't possible.I have sent a query to a collector friend in Prague and shall post the results when known.Regards,Rob
RobW Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 More is always asked of he who helps - Is there a precedence list in the book?Hugh,There are two such lists in the book that could possibly be an order of precedence but not being able to read Czech I can't tell for sure. Not wishing to post ill-informed comment I am making some inquiries with those more competent than I in the Czech language and medals and when I have a definitive list I shall post here.Regards,Rob
Hugh Posted July 25, 2009 Author Posted July 25, 2009 Thanks very much; here's hoping for a good outcome!Hugh
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