Heer panthersturm

[douglynn]

have posted already in the concreat and bunker section my man and his panthersturm

[douglynn]

soldbuch page

[douglynn]

have more pics if interested

[Bob Hunter]

Great period photo!

[kstdk]

Hello all

Try also this link:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php...ght=pantherturm

Use the "search" facility, and look for more info - there is a lot of topics about fortifications, and tank turrets used as fortification.

[kstdk]

Hello all

Another Drawing of the "OT-Stahlunterstand f?r Panther Turm"

[Bob Hunter]

Being a gunner on that rig is not on my short list of dream jobs.

[David Gregory]

Being a gunner on that rig is not on my short list of dream jobs.

Ditto that. A few of these have turned up in "relic" condition in Poland in the last few years, but none of them seemed like healthy places to have spent a few hot weeks. Rare and interesting document. Do you know where the Soldbuch holder served?

[Guest Darrell]

My uncle often told of the story of these Pillboxes in Italy. One was positioned just downhill from a ridge where advancing allied tanks were picked off 1 by 1. The entire ridge was littered with it's victims. He said they finally spotted and blasted it with direct fire. The resulting explosion threw the turret into the air and when it landed, the turret gun was sticking straight up in the air.

[kstdk]

Hello Darrel

There were several "Lines" in Italy where the Panther Turrets were mounted.

http://www.gothicline.org/inglese/offensiva/offensiva.htm

http://members.tripod.com/~aries46/gemmoliv.htm

http://www.gothic-line.com/

The attack on the Panther Turret you are talking about - "could" have been this one, See picture attached ??

[douglynn]

HAND WRITTEN

[Guest Darrell]

Wow ... that's rather eery Kurt. Unfortunately he passed away several years ago ... so I guess we will never know. You wouldnt know if those were Canadian Troops in the picture ... would you?

I'm almost certain he was transferred to the Western Front Operations before the battles up in Northern Italy. Is there any date afixed to this picture as well?

[kstdk]

Hello

It would be soldiers of the 1st. Canadian Army, and the period is August - September 1944.

[Guest Darrell]

Hello

It would be soldiers of the 1st. Canadian Army, and the period is August - September 1944.

ahh ... ok ... I'll have to do some digging to see if he was still in Italy then .... my gut says no.

[Gary T]

The second photo (black and white one) posted by Doug isn't a panthersturm...it's a Panhter that has been dug into a cobbled street.

[Mike C]

And the painting...

[Robert Noss]

Doug, awesome Soldbuch You got there. Very very rare !

But just to be correct - the entry does not say Panthersturm - it says Pantherturm which means nothing more as the turret of the Panther. Panther S turm would mean the storm of a Panther (which doesn't make real sense)

Very interesting thread !

Kind regards

Robert

[Paul R]

That makes the very first of these books I have seen!!! How many people would man a Panzerturm? I would thinking that it would take 2(Gunner and Loader).

[Robert Noss]

I would say 3 or even 4.

The tank panther had a team of 5 men.

1 driver, 1 commander, 1 radio operator and 2 gunners ( Richt- und Ladesch?tze)

Certainly we don't need a driver here. 2 gunners and a radio-operator and the commander. Maybe no commander if one of the gunners takes over his part.

I dunno.

Fascinating subject.

Robert