kjf101 Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Hi all, Has anyone seen the VC replica by Hancocks of London? What do you think of it, is it worth their price, etc? Thanks kevin
Guest IMHF Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Here is one for $20.00, if it is a reproduction cheaper is better;) http://www.fruitsaladretro.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Reproduction_Medals.html Lorenzo
Guest IMHF Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Hi all, Has anyone seen the VC replica by Hancocks of London? What do you think of it, is it worth their price, etc? Thanks kevin I tried looking on their site for the VC you are speaking of I could not find it, can you please post a link to it. Thank you Lorenzo
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 I agree with Lorenzo - they all look the same and I expect this one will just have more paperwork. If I remember rightly Hancock's make the V.C.'s - I know that they verify ones that come on sale.
Elmar Lang Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Hello, I've been informed that Hancock doesn't sell replica VCs to private collectors. They make copies only on official request of public intitutions like museums, etc. Best wishes, E.L.
kjf101 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 Hello, I've been informed that Hancock doesn't sell replica VCs to private collectors. They make copies only on official request of public intitutions like museums, etc. Best wishes, E.L. EL, I beg to differ. Hancocks came out with a limited edition of the VC made by them, cased by them. They are available for 395 pounds. Email Hancocks with any questions. kevin
Elmar Lang Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 That's very interesting indeed! In 1984, I wrote to Hancocks, asking if it would have been possible to purchase a copy VC, but they kindly replied that it was impossible, for the reasons said in my post. I think I would like to add such a specimen to my collection now... Best wishes, E.L.
kjf101 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 That's very interesting indeed! In 1984, I wrote to Hancocks, asking if it would have been possible to purchase a copy VC, but they kindly replied that it was impossible, for the reasons said in my post. I think I would like to add such a specimen to my collection now... Best wishes, E.L. Hi Elmar, I purchased the medal and have it in my collection. I was just wondering what anyone else thought of it. On another British medal forum many of the members put it down stating that Hancocks was only out to make money, etc. My thinking is that this replica medal is made by the only company who produces the VC and it will be worth the investment. PM me your email address and I will send you a pic. kevin
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Since you've bought one, it would be nice to see a picture. Was there anything about it - box,paperwork etc. - that makes it special. Out of interest what did you pay ?
kjf101 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 Since you've bought one, it would be nice to see a picture. Was there anything about it - box,paperwork etc. - that makes it special. Out of interest what did you pay ? Hi all, The medal came cased with Hancocks name and logo printed on the inside cover. It also came with a certificate of authenticity. I paid about 600 US dollars for it. I just thought it would be nice to have an original copy as I can not afford a real VC. I can send you a pic if you provide me your email. I am at work and can't get into any of the photo sites to upload the pic. kevin
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Kevin - thank you for those details. I'm sure that over the years the value will go up - meanwhile you have the pleasure of owning one made by the only company authorised to make the originals. On the letter of authenticity do they say what metal they used ? You will know - of course - that the originals are made from one breechblock and there is concern about the amount left. However, London is littered with Russian cannon that were brought back following the Crimea War. They put them into the ground - barrels downwards - at road junctions to protect pedestrians from horsedrawn coaches and waggons that often cut corners. I thought it would be nice if they had used one of these old cannons to make the copies. p.s. When you can - post a picture for us all to see. Edited August 12, 2010 by Mervyn Mitton
kjf101 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 This is a reply I received from Hancocks when I was inquiring about medal. I will see what I can do about posting a picture. kevin "Metal is bronze similar to the original & the mould used is not the original mould. It is the only only limited edition produced and cased by Hancocks." <BR clear=all>With Compliments Hancocks Est. 1849 52 & 53 Burlington Arcade London W1J 0HH UK<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break">
Guest IMHF Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 $800.00 for a fake (Copy) "Same thing" that is crazy, I would just stick with the $10.00 Copy it will not increase that much in value. A copy of a medal is like buying a new car and driving it off the lot, it looses value. Lorenzo
Guest IMHF Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 In fact I don't like reproduction due to the high volume of WWII German Fakes that are being manufactured they look so real that the experts can't tell if they are or not;) If they are making $800.00 copies, how can you tell it from the original manufactured one that is scarey to pay some big mula and gat a fake;0 Lorenzo
Guest IMHF Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 What are some ways to tell if this one here is an original?? What are some things to look for?? http://haripur.olx.com.pk/medal-victoria-cross-1914-for-sale-iid-68882112 Thank you for the information;) Lorenzo
Guest IMHF Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 kjf101 Was this what you were trying to post, thank you:) Lorenzo
kjf101 Posted August 13, 2010 Author Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) yes thank you. here is another one if you can properly post it. It cost me 600 US, less in Pounds.[ kjf101 Was this what you were trying to post, thank you:) Lorenzo Edited August 13, 2010 by kjf101
Tim B Posted August 14, 2010 Posted August 14, 2010 I'm not into copies but, if you wanted a copy of the VC, the Hancock examples are much better than many of the others out there. Search eBay for several available copies, most are rather poor but they are under $100. The Hancock versions command high prices as they were limited and numbered. Tim
johnnyrocket Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) This is as close to an original as your going to get without spending $30—$50,000 dollars. Johnny R. http://www.ebay.com/...1#ht_626wt_1110 Edited December 31, 2011 by johnnyrocket
johnnyrocket Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) Is this a real VC? The image sure looks good. What should a person look for in a original? Johnny R. OK, how does one you post an image on this Forum? I see that the posting is down for repair. Edited October 4, 2010 by johnnyrocket
kjf101 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Posted October 4, 2010 That pic looks like a pic of Canada's Victoria Cross. I am not an expert in the VC. I have seen real ones at the British Imperial War Museum but I did not handle any. I also have the VC Copy by Hancocks. kevin
Odin Mk 3 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) Yes that does look like the design of the new Canadian award because of the latin Pro Valori which got around having to put it in both french (????) and english (For Valour). I was fortunate to be able to handle all the VCs owned by the Wardrobe Museum (Wilts) and I have some photographs of them somewhere. I will try to find them and post some here. Incidentally the original medals were all displayed in the museum until relatively recently but have now been replaced with copies due to the very high insurance costs of displaying the originals; these are now locked away in a bank. With regards to the Hancocks VC 'copies' I don't believe it would be that easy to rename one to make it look like an original because of the way they have named the centre of the reverse. Edited October 8, 2010 by Odin Mk 3
Bob Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Is this a real VC? The image sure looks good. What should a person look for in a original? A GBP 200.000 price tag at auction? :speechless1:
johnnyrocket Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) This is as good as your going to get from an original VC: http://www.ebay.com/...1#ht_626wt_1110 Johnny R. Edited December 31, 2011 by johnnyrocket
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