Fakes: quality (slowly and not expertly) is on the raise

[JapanX]

Suveniers ...

[JapanX]

[JapanX]

Straight from early days of revolution

Edited August 10, 2013 by JapanX

[JapanX]

[JapanX]

Ok.

Somebody please tell me what the heck is this?!

[JapanX]

[JapanX]

Looks like this mutant is trying to mimic Taegeuk

[JapanX]

Somebody forgot about inscription on reverse of the leaf

[JapanX]

Mesmerizing

[JapanX]

I wouldn`t be suprised if this piece came from the same "workshop" as notorious Chrysanthemum

[utopis]

Yes, Taeguk, and in excellent quality. As far as I now these were from French manufacture beginning of the 20th century.

[JapanX]

Yes, Taeguk, and in excellent quality.

Exaggeration!

As far as I now these were from French manufacture beginning of the 20th century.

Aha!

So now we have a possible country of origin ...

Could be one of these european made "collectors copies" that Peterson mentioned in his book (although, if I remember correctly, he wrote only about japanese orders like rising sun, sacred treasure, etc).

Can you tell us where this info about french origin came from?

[utopis]

Exaggeration!

Come on!

-high quality cloisonne enamel.

-very fine stamped details.

-filigree hinge construction.

-chiseled central medallion

I wouldn`t be suprised if this piece came from the same "workshop" as notorious Chrysanthemum

These are worlds apart!

The chrysanthemum has badly made enamel (if hot enamel at all) and the details are very sloppy.

Could be one of these european made "collectors copies"

Hm, I'd rather think that European awardees commissioned high quality pieces in Europe since the Korean made pieces are not very well done (or replacements for lost pieces). Just like the European made Lion and Sun's

[utopis]

GC

[JapanX]

Yep, this Grand Cordon is work of the same maker

-high quality cloisonne enamel.

Tell you the truth, it doesn`t look very high quality to me ...

These are worlds apart!

The chrysanthemum has badly made enamel (if hot enamel at all) and the details are very sloppy.

I think it`s this terrible "gold gild" on rays that gives you this impression.

But guillochage looks very much alike (center of "Taegeuk" and chrysanthemum on "Chrysanthemum").

I`d say very close pieces (by work).

Even same unstable thiсkness of the boarder.

See

[JapanX]

Hm, I'd rather think that European awardees commissioned high quality pieces in Europe since the Korean made pieces are not very well done (or replacements for lost pieces). Just like the European made Lion and Sun's

With different design of central medallion?!

Instead of 陰陽 we have some hallcinogenic blasphemy!!!

[utopis]

Like this

[utopis]

has anything to do with this

The pieces of European manufacturers were often influenced by their artistic freedom.

Edited October 19, 2013 by utopis

[JapanX]

But we still see a lion in the center

P.S. Another argument that these two creatures ("Taegeuk" and "Chrysanthemum") are blood related is the absence of any japanese inscriptions on the back of suspensions ;)

[utopis]

On this one you can see everything that the original piece has, too (except inscription). The central disk is just more stylized.

Well, like an European manufacturer would know what any of those signs meant

[JapanX]

The central disk is just more stylized.

We're gonna need a new definition of "stylized"

[JapanX]

LATE WAR VERSION, VERY RARE!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAPANESE-ORDER-OF-THE-RISING-SUN-SECOND-CLASS-/300992449350?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46148c4b46

Don't miss this one!

[utopis]

Hm it would be interesting to know whether the piece is made from acid treated (real) silver or just some painted metal.

[JapanX]

Silver?

Naaa I don't think so.

Too costly

Looks like some kind white alloy...

[utopis]

Yeah, his last 2nd class fake set sold for only 480. Does it even pay off?