JapanX Posted October 14, 2013 Author Posted October 14, 2013 Reverse (any ideas about possible translation? )
JapanX Posted October 26, 2013 Author Posted October 26, 2013 At last I get one of these photos! Nature morte
rathbonemuseum Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I finally have some good pictures of a couple of army graduation badges I will post in contribution to the thread. First is a very fine solid silver officer graduation badge in box. No inscriptions and no name.
JapanX Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 Looks nice! But its not the first silver cased one (see posts #113-120) Can you post photo of reverse Tod?
rathbonemuseum Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 The second badge is much cruder and made out of some lightweight aluminum alloy. It is still made up of separate pieces but they are painted, not gilded. In addition the the gold star and propeller, the wings have also been painted gold. The star is riveted to the shield.
JapanX Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 Ooops! While I was typing you were posting Thanks for reverse photos Tod! I understand no silver marks in sight
rathbonemuseum Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 No silver mark and therefore perhaps a lower quality of silver content? But is primarily silver. And my use of "first"...only to specify that is one of two badges I was posting.
JapanX Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 These two are equivalents of badges from posts #31-40. Btw, I heard that some of our colleagues think that these are after war repros ...
JapanX Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 No silver mark and therefore perhaps a lower quality of silver content? But is primarily silver. And my use of "first"...only to specify that is one of two badges I was posting. Actually this "silver one" is very interesting!!! Will it be possible for you to weigh it?
rathbonemuseum Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I have don't have a fine scale. Weight will have to come later. But the silver badge (my first one) is much heavier and thicker than the aluminum alloy one (the second one). As for being an after war copy, I have not found any information about this particular badge that is definitive. Yes, I have seen crude copies where the badge is flat and the star is glued to the shield, not riveted. This alloy model seems better made and is more in appearance and construction to the better quality models. So as yet, not sure if it is either a 1) better copy or 2) poor quality original.
JapanX Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 But the silver badge (my first one) is much heavier and thicker than the aluminum alloy one (the second one). That`s why I said that it is very interesting. Indeed it looks like much higher quality piece (and indeed like silver one!) ... aluminum alloy one (the second one). As for being an after war copy, I have not found any information about this particular badge that is definitive. Unfortunately I become more and more suspicious about these light aluminum badges ...
Jktu Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 Yep. "Something more" Looks like Nakato is right about 1913 Here comes exact dates Officer badge 陸軍飛行機操縦術習得徽章 将校用 was established on June 23, 1913 / 大正2年6月23日制定 NCO badge 陸軍飛行機操縦術習得徽章 下士官用 on the very same date June 23, 1913 / 大正2年6月23日制定 I was looking and I found this:
JapanX Posted November 1, 2013 Author Posted November 1, 2013 Yep. Original regulation for this badge! Found it too Unfortunately I can't find a guy (or a girl ) who will help with translation ...
JapanX Posted November 1, 2013 Author Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) Can't find later regulations for this badge from September 14, 1940 and May 1944. Any ideas Oleg? :whistle: Edited November 1, 2013 by JapanX
Jktu Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 1940: http://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/2960607 1944: http://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/2961695
JapanX Posted November 20, 2013 Author Posted November 20, 2013 Translation of back inscription will be greatly appreciated
arrestanddevelopment Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Hi , I am interested, why #31-40 are suspect copies...?? and thus there is a question mark on Tods alloy badge.. am I not correct in saying that alloy badges were issued late war ?? looking though the threads I would not personally be that quick to condemn Tods badge, as I think the quality is much better than known fakes... just my humble opinion .. kind respects steve Edited December 3, 2013 by arrestanddevelopment
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