Japanese Officers with Chinese (Manchukuo and Nanjing Government) Awards

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+ two Manchukuo medals "National Foundation" and "Shrine Foundation" medals

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Here's an interesting question. Most collectors would categorise the Manchukuo Orders alongside the Japanese awards, while the Wang Jingwei Puppet Government awards are usually categorised alongside Chinese awards.

Why is this? Some possible reasons:

The Manchukuo orders were mostly (all?) produced by the Osaka Mint and share the same very high quality as typical Japanese orders. James Peterson for instance includes the Manchukuo awards in his book on ODM of "Japan and Associated States".

The Wang Jingwei orders (Order of United Glory, Order of the National Emblem) were produced locally with the limited resources of the Puppet Government in occupied territory. The quality is noticeably poorer with enamel rot and verdigris a common problem.

Edited November 27, 2012 by drclaw

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The Manchukuo orders were mostly (all?) produced by the Osaka Mint and share the same very high quality as typical Japanese orders. James Peterson for instance includes the Manchukuo awards in his book on ODM of "Japan and Associated States".

The Wang Jingwei orders (Order of United Glory, Order of the National Emblem) were produced locally with the limited resources of the Puppet Government in occupied territory. The quality is noticeably poorer with enamel rot and verdigris a common problem.

Yes, I think differences in manufacturing may be one of the factors.

Nanjing decorations are 100% chinese product (by design and manufacturing).

Also lesser quantity (by a factor!) of Nanjing awards.

By the way, we know that Peterson simply omitted this part of his dissertation from publication(http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/46499-the-ambiguity-of-some-chinese-medals/)

Most likely because of the incomplete information.

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Thanks to a generosity of our colleague Roman1981 (Muscovite and GMIC member) we have an opportunity to examine these gorgeous photos.

First will be this unknown Lieutenant General with pillars (!!!) and clouds.

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Close ups

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Interesting order of the medals and a lot of Manchu medals

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More photos soon - stay tuned

Cheers,

Nick

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We saw this dashing lieutenant colonel in the previous posts, but now he is in HQ

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and this phlegmatic major is also known to us

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and now something completely new!

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Its not the foundation medal, but the 7th class Kite that is "something new" and quite amazing.

It certanly looks like "triangle wing" type, i.e. Meiji type? Type 4 in this classification http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/51228-classification-of-golden-kites-in-6th-and-7th-class/page-1 ...

How it is possible?!

I wonder ...

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[drclaw]

Thanks for posting Nick!

I've always wondered why the Pillars of the State are so rare compared to the Auspicious Clouds

It was founded on 14 September 1936, just two years after the Auspicious Clouds on 1 March 1934. It corresponded to the Sacred Treasure which was fairly liberally awarded to Japanese officers.

Edited December 6, 2012 by drclaw

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Hi Gavin!

here you'll find the answer to your question

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/52468-mythology-of-late-kites-and-pillars/page-3

"It corresponded to the Sacred Treasure"... I guess this is direct quotation from Peterson?

Cheers,

Nick

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and another series of very interesting photos from Roman1981 vault`s

Major general with very nice selection of Manchu awards

Edited December 8, 2012 by JapanX

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Another major general with very interesting manchu-british bar

Edited December 8, 2012 by JapanX

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