Luftwaffe Please post unmarked Flak Badges

[Flak88]

Hi everyone! I would really appreciate it if folks would post their unmarked Flak badges, but NOT the ball-hinge types, as we know them.

Thanks,

Marc

[Flak88]

Still hoping folks will contribute! Don't you guys want to see your badges in THE premier reference work on Flak badges?

Marc

[J Temple-West]

Obverse..

[J Temple-West]

Reverse..

[Flak88]

Nice S&L J!!! If I end up needing it I will let you know. I need some of the variant S&L backsides. STEP UP GUYS!

Marc

Edited March 15, 2006 by Flak88

[spectre]

Marc,

Here is my first one from way back in '80 but I have no idea who made these.

Alan

[Flak88]

Classic S&L.

Marc

[Avitas]

Here is mine, damaged back, swaz, and wreath, but I think it's a good nickel-silver one. Any opinions? I have lots of badges on right now if you want to check them out (mostly in Heer/Navy so far). I am new and looking for advice.

Thanks, pat

[Avitas]

Here is the back, it's not as rusty looking in person, must be the scanners settings. I can only post 60K pictures so if anyone has ideas on how to post bigger pics with good res, please let me know.

Thanks,

Pat

[Paul R]

Can you please post a closeup photo of the hinge?

Regards

Paul

[Avitas]

Here are some larger, less resolution pics. The hinge has been damaged and repaired. Hope these help.

Pat

[Avitas]

Here is the bigger pic of the back..

[Flak88]

Little doubt to me now - it is a copy of the FLL Flak badge. The reverse is totally wrong and I think the "repair" is an attempt to mask the nature of the fake. I would like to see oblique shots of the hinge and catch, but the eagle and wreath are absolutely based on the FLL Flak, imho. Sorry, but it does not look good at this point. I would like to use it in my book however in the fakes section.

Marc

[Avitas]

Hmm, I thought the detail of the gun and its gears were good, and the material seems to be nickel-silver, but I am no expert, unlike Flak88. The badge was damaged for sure and I'm wondering if that could be a reason for the wrong back. These badges seem to be trouble, but all of the rest of my collection I have better feelings about as I bought them from various reputable sources (emedals.ca etc). Over the next couple weeks I will be posting my Iron Crosses and other medals and lots of tinnies. Hopefully they will fare better.

Thanks,

Pat

[Flak88]

Pat,

I have not condemmed the badge! I would like to see the hinge and catch in an oblique. This is the FLL eagle and wreath, but FLL only made zinc badges, so that is troubling. They also did not have the cutout as this badge is done. I think the details is a little soft in comparison to what I expect in an FLL, but it might be wear. Is the metal pliable at all?

Again, I would like to see the hinge/catch before anyone passes judgement.

Regards,

Marc

PS - I never said I was an expert. No one is. But I have done quite a bit of research on Flak badges and there are enough things wrong with this one for me to question it.

[Flak88]

Here is a textbook FLL. Note the die-flaw on the 4th FULL leaf on the right - there is a dimple on the right of the leaf. Does your have this flaw?

Edited April 27, 2006 by Flak88

[Flak88]

Well, now that I see you have a bunch of Heer badges with the same reverse I have to say 100% that yours is a fake - a very good one, but a fake. May I use it in my upcoming Flak badge book?

Marc

[Avitas]

Hi,

Yes , that would be fine to use it. I will get you bigger, higher resolution pics if you want, or you can use the large ones off the site. The dealer I bought it off of (along with the other badges, but not much of the rest of my stuff) said when he bought them long ago they were all damaged and missing pins, so he added them himself. I probably should have mentioned that earlier, but at least I remembered now.

Thanks again,

Pat

[Paul R]

Here is mine... I hope it helps

[Paul R]

back

[Paul R]

catch

[Flak88]

Very nice FLL! Anyone have some S&L to post???

Marc