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An Ultimate Test for Dating Golden Kites (in 4th and 5th classes) with "Scattered" Riverts

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Yep...

This mysterious type 5 (and type 6) in this classification http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/51156-classification-of-colden-kites-in-4th-and-5th-class-an-attempt/ .

So does it really exclusively belong to Taisho epoch as I though?

Here we were having first doubts

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/52822-applying-the-golden-kite-dating-classification-a-question-for-japanx/

Then again http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/51156-classification-of-colden-kites-in-4th-and-5th-class-an-attempt/page-3 (from post # 47)

Now we know the exact answer ;)

The answer is solid NO!

No, it doesn`t exclusively belong to Taisho epoch!

This type of Kite with "scattered" riverts belong to Meiji/Taisho epoch.

Why?

Here comes an answer!

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Please welcome Captain of IJA (holder of the Senior 7th Rank, Decorated 4th Rank, 4th Level of Bravery) Haiasy Masasuke!!!

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This photo he gave to Mr. Hagino Masaru as a keepsake of their participation in the Russo-Japanese War.

The date on reverse of the photo is 1907!!!

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I`d like to say huge thank you for my friend Shimbu for sharing this photo with me!

Let`s take a closer look at his medal bar

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Here it is - this type 5 Kite ;)

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So, now we know for a fact that type 1 came from Meiji and type 7 came from Showa

Here they are

Type 1 Meiji vs.Type 7 Showa

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And now we know that type 5 with "scattered" riverts belong to the Meiji/Taisho epoch.

Here they are together.

Type 1 Meiji vs.Type 7 Showa vs. Type 5 Meiji-Taisho

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Hello to all friends collectors,

Hello to Nick

I have in my collection a 5th class G.K. and I have a question : Is my G.K. a Meiji-Taisho epoch ? it seems to me that "Yes" according the Nick's article : "an ultimate test for dating G.K...."  but Am I right ?

What do you think ? If someone has an opinion on this matter thank for your help.

Regards

Patout

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Yep.

Kite is from Showa epoch, but the case is from Meiji/Taisho time period.

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17 hours ago, JapanX said:

Yep.

Kite is from Showa epoch, but the case is from Meiji/Taisho time period.

Hello JapanX

Thank you very much for this answer,

I am sorry that the medal and the case are not the same epoch, I thought of having a homogeneous set,

....too bad, it's a pity.

Regards

Patout

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This is how the correct case for this type of kite should look like.

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Hello
Thank you very much JapanX

I keep affectedly these photos for the documentation (photothèque) that I am establishing.

But... I begin to have a doubt about other kites i have in my collection ...

Both this below seem to me of era Meiji as well as cases (the box of 7th class is Brown what reminds me in a box of era meiji)...
but what about exactly !!! I'm afraid !!

Regards

Patout

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On 2/9/2013 at 16:49, JapanX said:

Let`s make a couple of comparisons ;)

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Thank you for the informative overview!

But I have a question. On the B/W photograph the center field (which should be blue) appears to be lighter in tone than the 32 rays (which should be red). 

I was trying to play with the picture, but I cannot get the sender blue field look like on the photograph here... How dod you explain that?

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Just now, PATOUT said:

 

Both this below seem to me of era Meiji as well as cases ...

 

Correct kites in correct cases ;) 

Just now, Egorka said:

How dod you explain that?

Most likely this happened because of the catchlight. 

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