Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) 2. Indian state of Patiala.The Royal Phulkian Family Order - Knight Commander, breast star.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Edited March 11, 2006 by Christophe
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) 3.Indian state of Patiala.The Royal Phulkian Family Order - Commander - Neck badge.With the wrong ribbon (the one of the breast badge).Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Edited March 11, 2006 by Christophe
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 3bOther pic of the same order.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 4.Indian state of Patiala.The Royal Phulkian Family Order - Commander - Neck badge.Second one, also with the wrong ribbon (the one of the breast badge).Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 5. Indian state of Patiala.The Royal Phulkian Family Order - Officer - Enameled breast badge.With a wrong green ribbon.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 5. Other pic of the same order. Please, note the reduced size of the order.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 6.Indian state of Patiala.The Royal Phulkian Family Order - Member, 5th class - Silver-gilt breast badge.The glass needs to be cleaned... Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 7.Indian state of Patiala.The Royal Phulkian Family Order - Member, 6th class ?- Silver breast badge.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 8.Indian state of Patiala.The Order of The Holy Saint (Guru Ghar Manya Mandal) - Collar and collar badge.This one is specifically difficult to photography. Sorry for the quality of the pic.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 8bThe collar badge.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 9.Indian state of Patiala.The Order of The Holy Saint (Guru Ghar Manya Mandal) - Brest star.Badly placed light. Sorry for this...Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 9bOther pic of the same order.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
David S Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Magnificent and very impressive !!Is it just me or does the centerpiece on the collar in pic 34 & 35 look like a smiley face
Christophe Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 Magnificent and very impressive !!Is it just me or does the centerpiece on the collar in pic 34 & 35 look like a smiley face I see what you mean, specifically in post #34. Cheers.Ch.
Christophe Posted March 16, 2006 Author Posted March 16, 2006 10.Indian state of Patiala.The Order of Merit (Nishan-i-Iftikhar) - Knight Grand Cross. Military division. Breast star.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 16, 2006 Author Posted March 16, 2006 10bOther pic of the same order.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 11.Indian state of Patiala.The Order of Merit (Nishan-i-Iftikhar) - Knight Grand Cross. Civil division. Breast star.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) 11bOther pic of the same order.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Edited March 18, 2006 by Christophe
Christophe Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 12.Indian state of Patiala.The Order of Merit (Nishan-i-Iftikhar) - Knight Grand Cross. Civil division. Sash badge.I'm not sure it is the right ribbon...Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Ed_Haynes Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) 12.Indian state of Patiala.The Order of Merit (Nishan-i-Iftikhar) - Knight Grand Cross. Civil division. Sash badge.I'm not sure it is the right ribbon...Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR CollectionNo, on Khedive's Sudan ribbon. Woudl guess a good one-third of their medals (even the easy British ones) are mis-ribboned. They don't care either.Should look like this (though this is a lower class): Edited March 18, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Ed_Haynes Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 8bThe collar badge.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR CollectionThe Order of the Holy Saint they have is immensely bizarre and is probably a (unique, unreported, and unpublished) master's chain. A high agenda item is to get so eone with the key to open the case for photography for the next edition of McClenaghan's fine book. The jewel should look like:
Christophe Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 (...). Woudl guess a good one-third of their medals (even the easy British ones) are mis-ribboned. They don't care either. (...)Very nice order, Ed. About the two points you mentioned : how can you explain this ? Why are they mis-ribboned ? I've to say that the few medals I have seen for sale in India in "classic" antiques shops (not experts) were proposed... without ribbon !!! Cheers.Ch.
Ed_Haynes Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 Very nice order, Ed. About the two points you mentioned : how can you explain this ? Why are they mis-ribboned ? I've to say that the few medals I have seen for sale in India in "classic" antiques shops (not experts) were proposed... without ribbon !!! Cheers.Ch.Almost all medals that come to market in India are naked. Has to do with the mechanism by which they have (until VERY recently) come to market. Re-ribboning them is common habitual practice (however scandalous that may sound to the German collector crowd).Medals from the States are a special problem though, as most of the ribbons are rarer than the medals themslelves. Except for Patiala (and some Bokaner) stuff that has come to market direct from the families (sort of), a naked State medal will stay naked 99.9% of the time. I have paid a lot for the few complete rolls (10 inches across) of some States ribbon that I hoard, even though I do not have medals to match.
Christophe Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 The Order of the Holy Saint they have is immensely bizarre and is probably a (unique, unreported, and unpublished) master's chain. A high agenda item is to get so eone with the key to open the case for photography for the next edition of McClenaghan's fine book. The jewel should look like:That's a very nice order. I have seen this picture in YOUR excellent site dedicated to Patiala State orders and medals :http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/medals...ls/Patiala.htmlI can only recommand this site, as it allowed me to know more and more about all these unknown orders and medals. I confess I have seen them and taken pics without having the less idea of what they were.Thanks again Ed !!Cheers.Ch.PS : about the order, I agree it is quite different. Sorry that my pics are not precise enough... I will have to go back there !!!!
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