Manchukuo - Auspicious Clouds 2nd Class

[drclaw]

This is a real beauty in Morton and Eden's upcoming July 2013 auction. And unlike with our vendor in Ukraine, you know you will receive what you pay for.

Plenty of Japanese orders and decorations as well, including a Grand Cordon Rising Sun and Grand Cordon Sacred Treasure.

Full catalogue available here: http://www.mortonandeden.com/pdfcats/65web.pdf

Manchukuo, Order of the Auspicious Clouds, Second Class set of insignia, comprising neck badge, in silver-gilt and enamels, width 62.5mm, and breast star, in silver, with gilt and enamelled centre, 89mm, in (slightly damaged) lacquer box of issue, good very fine and rare £3,000-3,500

Edited June 7, 2013 by drclaw

[JapanX]

Somebody should tell them about wrong position of the breast star in the box :lol:

Edited June 7, 2013 by JapanX

[JapanX]

By the way, I wonder if the neck badge is marked with M :whistle:

Edited June 7, 2013 by JapanX

[utopis]

So the catalogue is finally out.

Somebody should tell them about wrong position of the breast star in the box

Well, as you say, at least a set that you will actually receive

[JapanX]

Well, as you say, at least a set that you will actually receive

Yes, but what about all this suspense that "our vendor in Ukraine" gave to us ;)

Edited June 7, 2013 by JapanX

[drclaw]

1st Class Auspicious Clouds currently on YJA. Superb!

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-11630-0-13061800-1372631749.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-11630-0-63809500-1372631774.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-11630-0-23992900-1372631822.jpg

[JapanX]

We know!

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/58415-supreme-order-of-the-chrysanthemum/page-2

Posts #36 and #40 (at least now the seller "may not ship to the whole world" and not only to RF )

:beer:

Edited June 30, 2013 by JapanX

[utopis]

We know!

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/58415-supreme-order-of-the-chrysanthemum/page-2

Posts #36 and #40 (at least now the seller "may not ship to the whole world" and not only to RF )

Yeah, we're all in the same boat this time.

[JapanX]

Yeah, we're all in the same boat this time.

Еasy all!

[paul wood]

I will have to execute the photographer for getting the star the wrong way round. Also lot of dirt cheap Japanese in the auction.

Paul

[JapanX]

... cheap ...

You never know

[paul wood]

It seems that you can't give Japanese medals away even at a half to a third of what they were making 35 years ago, even the auspicious clouds sold on the reserve. I reckon if I sold my collection of Raj Medals to Indians I could fill a warehouse with Japanese ODM on the proceeds.

Paul

[drclaw]

I was surprised it went for that price but it does support the widespread perception that Manchukuo orders are Japanese, not Chinese.

Imagine what a cased 2nd Class Golden Grain or Striped Tiger set would have sold for.

Paul - well done on that 1st Type 3rd Class Double Dragon. 40,000 pounds must be a new record.

Edited July 2, 2013 by drclaw

[JapanX]

It seems that you can't give Japanese medals away even at a half to a third of what they were making 35 years ago, even the auspicious clouds sold on the reserve.

Well, while Japanese "stuff" is in a descending line, Manchu "stuff" has a very good perspectives ...

I reckon if I sold my collection of Raj Medals to Indians I could fill a warehouse with Japanese ODM on the proceeds.Paul

Or even better - buy yourself a private brewery

[JapanX]

I was surprised it went for that price but it does support the widespread perception that Manchukuo orders are Japanese, not Chinese.

They are by every account

So this 2nd class set was sold for £3,000 ?

1st Type 3rd Class Double Dragon. 40,000 pounds must be a new record.

35 years ago it costs (almost) next to nothing

[drclaw]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

With perfect hindsight, I would have sold shares in 2007, sold gold in 2012, and stocked up on Chinese medals in 2000

[JapanX]

I tell you guys - what we need is a time machine!

[paul wood]

I was surprised it went for that price but it does support the widespread perception that Manchukuo orders are Japanese, not Chinese.

Imagine what a cased 2nd Class Golden Grain or Striped Tiger set would have sold for.

Paul - well done on that 1st Type 3rd Class Double Dragon. 40,000 pounds must be a new record.

Yes the Chinese did incredibly well, the type 2 1/3 star made £8,500, even managed to shift that late Cloud and Banner for £2,400.

Paul

[Gensui]

Gents,

Are there any list of results as download available?

What happend to the unsold pieces? Will they be part of the following auction?

BR, Chris

[paul wood]

Price list now on line at wwwmortonandeden.com. A bit late due to staff absences. Sensible offers will be considered, if none are received they will be reconsigned.

Anyone interested can PM me.

Paul

[JapanX]

What happend to the unsold pieces?

Will they be part of the following auction?

Smooth operator! :lol:

[JapanX]

Yes the Chinese did incredibly well, the type 2 1/3 star made £8,500, even managed to shift that late Cloud and Banner for £2,400.Paul

Sounds like a bargain ... after looking at this price

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/classifieds/item/577-chinese-war-medal/

£6,000 for 4th class Tiger .... Not bad :whistle:

[drclaw]

It might be a typo - $ ....

Even then ....

[JapanX]

It might be a typo - $ ....

... or rubles

[Gensui]

Well, we call it “free enterprise economy”: you never know who is looking where for what item…!

BR, Chris

@Nick: well, the items I’m looking for are not available this time…