mickey Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 hi all a recent arrival a group of documents to a soldier named shimura the group includes a china incident and manchurian incident award document plus a number of monetary awards for bravery during both incidents most interestingly for me a border incident medal award document and a detailed service history to the same soldier was included kindly translated by rich catalano private 1st class shimura arrived in darien in 1936 as part of a mg company and served in china until 1941 and was heavily involved in north manchuria he spent 1941 to 1944 in japan at army hq and then as an nco at the army pilot acadamy the border incident document has a healthy dose of nics patina but i figured these document are pretty hard to find and worth preserving, note the medal and document box are seperate purchases ,shame these get seperated from the documents
JapanX Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Nice doc Mickey! "Non-golden orchid" variation. Extremely low number of doc! Looks like 8141?
mickey Posted July 29, 2013 Author Posted July 29, 2013 Nice doc Mickey! "Non-golden orchid" variation. Extremely low number of doc! Looks like 8141?
mickey Posted July 29, 2013 Author Posted July 29, 2013 Thanks for the number Nick are the golden orchid documents later issue
JapanX Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Well, I know for a fact that for some time these two variations co-existed. In diapason between 70000 and 85000 ;)
Gensui Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 @Mickey A lovely group; with the indeed very low award number of 8141 a nice catch! @Nick Can you show a comparison between these two variations? BR, Chris
Gensui Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Oh no! Again, variation I need to look for... Thanks, Nick!
JapanX Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Doc for "Visit" also has two variations Repeat after me "ich habe mich in der Gewalt, ich habe mich in der Gewalt, ..."
mickey Posted July 29, 2013 Author Posted July 29, 2013 thanks guys is there any info on how many of these medals were awarded
JapanX Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Judging by the numbers we find on documents more than 100 000 :whistle:
Gensui Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 ...any ideas, why/when there was any changes in the medal itself? E.g. fat vs. slim dove-version? BR, Chris
Gensui Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Doc for "Visit" also has two variations Repeat after me "ich habe mich in der Gewalt, ich habe mich in der Gewalt, ..."
JapanX Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 ...any ideas, why/when there was any changes in the medal itself? E.g. fat vs. slim dove-version? As for today - no hard evidence whatsoever. But we know, that official chart of Manchu awards published in 1944 had "fatty" version http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/58635-chart-of-medals-and-badges-of-great-manchukuo-empire-from-1944/ After all there could be simply two different manufacturers ... Cheers, Nick
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