Question on Bavarian bayonet frogs?

[Joe Sweeney]

I'm looking to complete a display and wanted to find out if it is true that the Bavarian bayonet frog was cut with a point vice rounded?

I have not come across any references in my source documents but have heard several dealers saw the Bavarian frogs came to a point unlike the rounded versions used by the rest of the Army?

Is this true?

Any help appreciated.

Joe Sweeney

[Hoss]

Joe

Thats correct the Bavarian facing has a 'necktie' look on the 98/05 frog some with straight sides not sure on the smaller 84/98.

Eric

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

I never knew WW1 era bavarian frogs were any different to the rest.

Does anyone have any Photos?

Thanks

Chris

[Joe Sweeney]

Eric,

Very much appreciated. I will post a photo of my pointy frog so folks can say whether its Bavarian or even German.

Joe Sweeney

[Hoss]

Chris

There was one on ebay for weeks but the dude wanted too much for the 98/05 bayo I was in two minds to buy it and resell the bayonet. This is an example why it can become confusing a run of the mill frog with Bavarian issue stamp 1916, fine very nice but it wasn't Bav. made. Pics courtesy of the BCN.

Where's me chum Chip

Eric

[Chris Boonzaier]

Can you put a "regular" one for comparision?

Its not my collecting field... but I need some!!!

[Joe Sweeney]

Eric,

Thanks.

Chris,

I think that one is run of mill (all other German states)--but Bavarian marked. Eric is that correct?

Joe Sweeney

[Hoss]

Yes

Here's an early Bavarian frog its been well used it may even fit an 98/02 but shows the 'V' front at least they had a close to edge crease mark.. Belgium had one also but it widens at the shoulders then tapers, I noticed the v cut on this frog some Germans did that so a soldier could pull out the bayonet & scabbard, if you wear a bayonet and sit... get up lay down get up and take off a lot you'll know what I mean.

If I'm wrong hope to be corrected its old news maybe some more info is available now I don't have my bav. frogs anymore to show sorry.

Eric

[Joe Sweeney]

Eric,

Thanks for the photos--I have one that looks like to the one on the left thankfully.

Joe Sweeney

[Joe Sweeney]

I'm hoping this is Great War Bavarian bayonet frog???

It is dyed black on the front after manufacture and left brown on the back.

Joe Sweeney

[Fritz die Spinne]

Here is my frog, marked 149 | BD III | 1915

The idea of a "necktie" detail being a Bavarian detail is news to me, and exciting! I think I have seen them and been told they were not German.