paja Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I am not completely sure where I got these images from but I think that they are from ebay. I believe someone took regular Order of the Cross of Takovo 4th class (looks like the product of Vincent Mayer’s Söhne to me) and then attached very poor quality swords on it. Notice how crude and with unclear details are those swords. I also think that they are smaller in size. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-7937-0-00145400-1389977724.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-7937-0-21219300-1389977735.jpg Edited January 17, 2014 by paja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Back side is even worse! Notice how the both sides, front and back, are the same. That is not the case with original pieces, back side of the swords is as far as I know either flat or engraved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) It should be pristine on the back side, to my knowledge the sword didn't have a chance of failing, it was well put together.Definatley looks like a re-tool or addition to the order. The order itself looks horrible in that light, I'm not convinced on the crown too, it has a very harsh appearance :S Edited January 17, 2014 by Rogi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Perhaps it came from here, looks the same to me. http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8077513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Rogi, Thanks for your respond, I just want to make this clear for some of the forum members which are maybe not that familiar with the whole story behind the order with swords. Considering that the cross with swords for war merits was instituted in 1883, after the Wars for Liberation and Independence, those who received it during the war were suppose to deliver their orders (without swords) to the Chancery of the Royal Orders. Chancery would then return the decorations to recipients after the swords were applied. Some of the recipients did not do so but ordered completely new decorations instead. So swords were really added later on a certain amount of orders, but this was done professionally by some of the workshops which were involved in the production of the Serbian orders. This is obviously not the case with the piece from above... Edited January 17, 2014 by paja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) For comparison - order without swords from emedals made by I think the same producer (compare the inscription on the blue ribbon). http://www.emedals.com/collectors-gallery/europe/serbia/orders/order-of-takovo/case-order-of-takovo-2 Edited January 17, 2014 by paja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Back side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Radmilo, thank you so much for bringing this to our attention, most useful. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Don't mention it Paul, I'm glad that you think so. Best regards, Radmilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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