Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 OK, I am not sure if it is going to develop, but let's try. I am opening a new Soviet Quiz for 2014. As far as I could find, there was no quiz in 2013, so maybe this year... Let me put forward the first question. On the photo below you can see a group of individuals who held very important military (and not only) posts in the 1980s. 1. Identify all identifiable ones (including rank and country they were from). 2. What were the highest posts they held? And an additional question for experts: 3. Try to estimate when this photo was taken. Enjoy and good luck!
SergioV Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Hi nice picture and nice question i try to answer Polish General and 1st President of Poland Republic Wojciech Jaruzelski Marshal of the Soviet Union Viktor Kulikov commander of the Warsaw Pact General of the Army of the Soviet Union Anatoly Gribkov and in the shadow the Chief of the Romanian Army Vasile Milea The photo was taken in Warsaw in 1986 during the meeting of the State Committee of the Warsaw Pact, December 1 to 3
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Good answer Sergio, that is absolutely correct! Can you also recognize the two military on the left of Jaruzelski?
SergioV Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 countries belonging to the Warsaw Pact were eight (Albania Bulgaria Czechoslovakia East Germany Hungary Poland Romania Soviet Union) the last should be DDR Colonel General Heinz Keßler the smiling general i dont know..
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 22, 2014 Author Posted January 22, 2014 Ok, the individuals on the picture are as follows (l. to r.): General of the Army Dobry Dzhurov - Bulgarian People's Army (only half of him visible) General of the Army Heinz Kessler - National People's Army, GDR General of the Army Milán Václavík - Czechoslovak People's Army (smiling) General of the Army Wojciech Jaruzelski - Polish Army and Chief of State Council (in a suit) Colonel-General Ferenc Kárpáti - Hungarian People's Army (probably him, the face is covered; if not him, it is another Hungarian general) Colonel-General Vasile Milea - Romanian People's Army Marshal of the Soviet Union Viktor Kulikov - Soviet Army General of the Army Anatoly Gribkov- Soviet Army I think the task could be difficult. All of these individuals used to be on first pages of newspapers when they were in power and today it is even difficult to find any information about them on the Net, perhaps with the exception of Kessler, Jaruzelski Gribkov and Kulikov. Sic transit gloria mundi. The winner is of course SergioV, please feel free to ask the next question.
SergioV Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 well Lukasz I take the ball to mention the highest honor of the Soviet The order of Victory. A beautiful jewel of just 72mm at the top, platinum gold and silver studded with Diamonds and Rubies to be precise 174 diamonds and synthetic rubies 5 (to have a more uniform red color , rubies are always different in nature have shades ) . It was granted only to Generals and Marshals that have been active in the victorious battle that took part in one or more armed and with the success of an operation on one or more sides. After the death of a holder of this honor , decoration had to return to the state. The medals are now kept in the Kremlin Palace in Moscow . All orders delivered to the Soviet military leaders , as well as the badge of the Order, delivered to the Marshal Rola - Zymierski ( Polish) are kept in the Diamond Fund of Russia. The Order is delivered to the Eisenhower Memorial Museum in Abilene, Kansas. The Order of the Marshal Tito is exhibited at the Museum " May 25th " in Belgrade . The Order of the Marshal Montgomery is showing the Imperial War Museum in London. Only an order of "Victory" , which once belonged to the King of Romania Michail , is in a private collection. According to some , was sold at auction by one of the relatives of the dictator Ceausescu . Estimated value of the order in 1945 was £ 3,750 . Estimated value of the order in 2010 ~ $ 5,000,000 In his story , he was given only twenty times in thirteen personality ( plus five foreign leaders ) , with only one case of revocation. but come to us and to the questions of Soviet Quiz - Since you like old photos would be nice to see a picture of each personality honored with the Order of Victory. - I would like to know who and especially why? the order is revoked - And if anyone has info on who owns in private collection the Order
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 22, 2014 Author Posted January 22, 2014 Thank you! I think I know the answer, but let's try others try their luck, too.
paul wood Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Brezhnev awarded himself the Order of Victory in 1978 (I think the vodka must have been specially good that year) it was revoked posthumously in 1989 for not meeting the requirements of the award. Paul
SergioV Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Good Paul Brezhnev was a lover of military/civil decorations and jealous of those who owned Zukhov that's why he was made to attribute a lot of medals, the same number of stars as a hero and one more "hero of socialist labour" to overcome Zukhov and even the order of the victory that had no reason to be assigned because it was not a time of war Paul well you won now it's your turn to do the next question.
paul wood Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 An easy one. Stalin was heavily decorated and received many awards both Soviet and other counties. He also received two Soviet republic or autonomous territory awards, one in 1922 (before he was famous), the other 1943, name them. Paul
SergioV Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Order of the Red Star I Class from Bukhara 1922 Order of the Republic from Tuva 1943
paul wood Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Well done Sergio, you are correct, nice pictures. Your turn, lets get some more people answering. Paul
SergioV Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Thank you Paul another easy question, I'd like to know who is the gentleman in the picture
paul wood Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I know the answer but I was hoping some one else would get it. It was taken in 1916, many years before he became famous, I believe he was also a Hero of the Soviet Union. I will give it till next Friday, if no one come up with the answer I will give it and set another question. Paul
SergioV Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Yes BURGERHAUS you are correct you are the winner so feel free to ask the next new question
SergioV Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 ok gentlemen saw that this section is a bit dormant I propose a new question... What the photo shows? belonged to which nation?
Harvey Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 It appears to be some type of Ukrainian SSR labor award.
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