Leuchtturm Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Hi there, today I´ve received this group. Someone has an infotmation about the cross? The medal is markes with: 5162 A.SJT.D.C.WARD. R. IR. REGT. Maybe some informations about the rewarded? Best wishes Chris
Mervyn Mitton Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I have not heard of this Veterans group - I know several were in existance. The Crown is from Queen Victoria (1837-1901) The Royal Irish Rifles had a long history - mainly from the amalgamation of other, smaller Regts.. They were disbanded in 1922 when Ireland was formed. I have one of their drums - painted for George 5th. Coronation in 1910. Mervyn
paul wood Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 From what I have been able to find out the imperial Army and Navy Veterans seemed to be active especially in Australia and Canada in the late 19th century. They were certainly still in existence in the early 1920's but probably like many such organisations they ended up being absorbed in the Australian and Canadian equivalents of the British Legion soon after . Paul
peter monahan Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 ChrisIf you look at this thread you'll find some information on the Army and Navy Veterans in Toronto, Canada, including some nice photographs.http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/56373-a-veryvery-very-old-soldier/page-2Peter
Noor Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Donald C. Ward was entitled only British War Medal and Victory Medal. That mean he entered into the Theatre of War after December 1915. Later on he was transferred into the Labour Corps (service number 587616). This number block was transferred around May to September 1918 in Salonika, so you know where he fought. I can't confirm it at the moment but I think he was in the 5th (Service) Battalion (Pioneers). Regards, Timo
Noor Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 The Royal Irish Rifles had a long history - mainly from the amalgamation of other, smaller Regts.. Sorry but the Ward's unit is surely Royal Irish Regiment.
Mervyn Mitton Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Yes , you're right. My typing mistake - sorry. Mervyn
Noor Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 No worries - both famous Irish units indeed. Leuchttrum, check out The Great War site. There is plenty of information and also unit movements listed. Really handy tool for general info, acronyms, etc.
Leuchtturm Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Hi all, thank you very much for the informations. I think the cross is exactly that one shown in the photo from Ulsterman. Maybe someone has another veterans cross for comparison? @ Noor, thank you for the information about Donald C. Ward. Maybe someone know from which time the cap badge is? Best wishes Chris
Leuchtturm Posted January 26, 2014 Author Posted January 26, 2014 Hi all, no one has another veterans cross? Best wishes Chris
Leuchtturm Posted February 2, 2014 Author Posted February 2, 2014 Hi, I didn´t expect that the crosses are that rare. Best wishes Chris
peter monahan Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 They shouldn't be, but even some collectors [of medals] undervalue the 'other stuff' - badges, 'non-issue' awards and especially paper work, and a lot of it gets separated and/or thrown out over the years. Even the silver 'Services Rendered' badges are nowhere near as common on the market as one would expect, given that they went to anyone who was invalided out with sickness or wounds, and I suspect a lot were melted down for the silver because there is no name on them. Distressing!
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