Jani Tiainen Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Dear Friends, Attached pictures of some Cavalry and horse riding badges. I have problems (as usual to identify them all most of all... authenticate. First: Voroshilov Horseman badge
Jani Tiainen Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Another: Two slightly different badges, which I have found so many different names, that I only dare to ask what might be the official one Are these another type of Voroshilov badges awarded by OSOAVIAKhiM, since I think that name is in these and the previous one? At least neither was among the tons of different fakes I found. Edited May 13, 2014 by Jani Tiainen
Jani Tiainen Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 This one I have absolutely no idea. I have one book about Soviet badges (Printed in 2002) and I would be happy to get suggestions of better ones Does the latest Avers have good pictures of originals?
Jani Tiainen Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 Best for the last: These I believe are original, however I would be happy if someone would translate what the engraving on the reverse says?
Jani Tiainen Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 One more, This is likely some Competition badge, but I would like to know exactly what? I would appreciate all the help, Jani
Jani Tiainen Posted May 14, 2014 Author Posted May 14, 2014 Hello, I found good article about OSOAVIAKhiM badges, which even translated well with Google. However I dont know the source, so comments on credibility of this article would be appreciated. (I have never seen so many ads in one page http://valerikon01.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-post_4501.html By the way. Good idea to search for information with the language you dont know is to put certain term to google picture search. I used term "OSOAVIAKhiM badge" in russian with cyrillic letters and found of lot of interesting stuff through pictures. Jani
Aleksander P Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 Jani, I personally like the Avers 8 book a lot and it's the most complete work on Soviet badges to date. I've attached a couple of pages to give you a basic impression of the catalog. On the first page you can see the badge for the capture of Karelian Isthmus, which supposedly wasn't even produced, but seems that some prototype variants are out and the price matches that. The prices are indicated in US dollars, but they are a little off.
Jani Tiainen Posted May 14, 2014 Author Posted May 14, 2014 Jani, I personally like the Avers 8 book a lot and it's the most complete work on Soviet badges to date. I've attached a couple of pages to give you a basic impression of the catalog. On the first page you can see the badge for the capture of Karelian Isthmus, which supposedly wasn't even produced, but seems that some prototype variants are out and the price matches that. The prices are indicated in US dollars, but they are a little off. Thanks! I have thought the designs were made and perhaps tools, but I have never even heard of actual original badge - even a prototype to exists. Somebody even told me that some of the current fakes would have been made with original dies (?) Is that picture on Aver described as original prototype? I got to get Avers 8, my latest is #4. Jani
Aleksander P Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 No problem. I've heard the same and I've speculated of even a prototype being out there. Sadly the book doesn't state if the badge is real or not, as it only tells the story of the Winter War in short and what the badge is made out of. The text states that the badge was never issued, so I believe there to only be a prototype or two and I believe the badge in this to be a real one, but I cant say for sure. All badges in the book are original pieces, but missing ones have a graphical copy, as they are so rare that they cant be found. Personally I believe an original prototype badge to be way over 10,000 dollars, if there is indeed one.
Chuck In Oregon Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 There is a similar one for sale HERE. No endorsement intended or implied. Chuck
Jani Tiainen Posted May 15, 2014 Author Posted May 15, 2014 Thanks Chuck, I noticed that first one on collectrussia. Every dealer web site should visit there to see how items should be pictured. Jani
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