Dieter3 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'd imagine many of you saw this on eBay recently. I just wanted it for the maker's mark, it's otherwise unremarkable. Guessing that things were cobbled together, or perhaps the original recipient wanted to upgrade the lapel rosette from the bow that should have come with this piece. Weren't these 3-ray rosettes introduced in the 20's/late Taisho or very early Showa? This is one of our well-known "SU"-marked rosettes, but I believe the medal is closer to WWI time-frame. Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Exellent (and damn rare) marked piece! "Triangle wing" from (approximately) 1904-1920 with later (nothertheless could be originally purchased by the cavalier) rosette. Congrates man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Really? Those buttons as early as 1904?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Naaa These are from later time period Direct quote ... with later (nothertheless could be originally purchased by the cavalier) rosette. Edited July 27, 2014 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yeah, isn't there something posted here sometime ago about the dates and such for rosette styles, etc. Maybe that was on Wermacht from Nick Komiya? Or is my elder mind just messing with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi Dieter, A really nice find in the manufacturer's marked Golden Kite. I haven't been around the Japanese collecting field that long but it is the first marked specimen I've seen. Thanks for posting it. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Or is my elder mind just messing with me? It is not ruled out! This rosette was made somewhere between 1921 and 1936 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor1976 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Were 3-ray rosettes used at the same period with 4-ray rosettes for 7th Class Golden Kites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 No, they didn`t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 P.S. Please don`t forgt to check this thread http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/36585-golden-kite-7th-class-and-rosette/?hl=%2Bray+%2Brosettes+%2Bkite#entry341027 with ground-breaking theory in post #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor1976 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Can't imagine that manufacturers forgot that Golden Kite doesn't have 8th Class. It will be interesting to determine the period of using 3-ray rosettes for 7th Class Golden Kites (6-ray rosettes for 5th and so on) more accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 It will be interesting to determine the period of using 3-ray rosettes for 7th Class Golden Kites . See post #7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Can't imagine that manufacturers forgot that Golden Kite doesn't have 8th Class. It will be interesting to determine the period of using 3-ray rosettes for 7th Class Golden Kites (6-ray rosettes for 5th and so on) more accurately. Yeah, could swear this had been posted somewhere about a period of time where there was doubling-up of rosettes - where as in your example the 6-ray rosette was indeed used for both the 5th and 6th class awards. Damn, where is that post, I know it's here somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Dude, stop worrying about it ... simply let it go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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