Early Para cap badge

[Jock Auld]

Guys,

The early style without the German flag on the bottom of the oak wreath.  Sadly missing 2 pins and a bit rough at the front but I suppose these are now getting on a bit too!

Jock 

[Paul R]

Classic design, that is for sure.  What year did they start putting the flag on the badge?  What color is the appropriate beret?  Green or red?

[aubagne98]

Hi there,

 

this is the badge of an colonel, I took this photo 2014 at the Swiss 2-day-march.

 

He told me that the badge is from the 1970s, when he enlisted.

 

Michael

[Jock Auld]

Michael,

Thanks for the info, can't see any picture though?  So you are saying Col rank had a badge without the German flag on it, is this a general rule or just paras?

Cheers

Jock

[aubagne98]

Hi,

 

I think you know that there are only three insignias without flag.

In my opinion (I do not know it exactly) the older ones are still wearing their "Without flag" insignia, because it looks better. But I do not know what the ZDv 37/10 says.

Here the most soldiers of the German-French-Brigade wear the French type without the flag, mostly because this insignia is made in chrome-style. The chef-en-second once told me, that he wears the French and the commander, a French, wears the German with flag, because of showing their respect to each other.

 

Michael

[The Prussian]

Hello!

Those beret-badges were introduced in 1969, when the Jäger recieved the green beret, the paras (Luftlandetruppe = Fernmelder and Parachutists) a bordeaux-red one, and the tank-troops a black one.

The national-flag came out in 1979.

Here is the ZDv 37/10 with a supplementation from 2014

ZDv 37-10.pdf

ZDv 37-10 Ergänzung 2014.pdf

Edited April 25, 2015 by The Prussian

[Jock Auld]

No, I did not know as post war stuff is not really my thing.  I have a few pals that collect it.  I will ask them then what the other two are.

One of them told me that these were early badges without the flag, that is his belief, I shall break it to him gently!

Cheers

Jock