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    Posted

     

    Hello Gentlemen, I´m looking for informations about

    Hauptmann der Landwehr der Telegraphentruppe Hartong.

    I known that he was in Soest and that he got the Landwehrdienstauszeichnung 1. class.

    I couldn´t find him in the Ehrenrangliste 1914 / 1918, but he must have been there.

    That´s the reason why....

    Hartong_HptmTelegraphen_a.thumb.jpg.b5a8

    Hartong_Maj_Telegraphen_a.thumb.jpg.fdbc

    Every help appreciated

    Cheers

    Andreas

    Posted (edited)

    Hello Andreas!

    Why must he has been mentioned in the Ehrenrangliste? There were only those soldiers, who served in an active unit in 1914.

    I´ven found a "Telegraphen-Hartong" in the following Ranglisten:

     

    1909: Reserve-Ofizier, Leutnant im Telegraphen-Btl.2 (Soest), LD2

    1911: Reserve-Offizier, Oberleutnant im Telegraphen-Btl.2 (Soest), LD2

    1913: Reserve-Offizier, Oberleutnant der Telegraphentruppen, 1.Aufgebot (Soest), LD2

    1914: Reserve-Offizier, Hauptmann der Telegraphentruppe, 1.Aufgebot (Soest), LD1

     

    Edited by The Prussian
    Posted

    I find these shoulder boards interesting in that when he became a Hauptmann he had no battalion number. Would this be because he was some sort of unassigned officer or was this common for reserve officers? Normally, only Bavarian officers had this style "T" (until later in the war) with no number. He must have continued to use his pre-1911 (red Unterlage) shoulder boards even by 1914! By the time he becomes a Major he has the correct hellgrau color. I am also not familiar with the Roman numerals on such a board. Could this indicate a corps level association or is it just another way to show 2nd battalion?

    Chip

    Posted

    @ Andy, my hope was to find him in the Ehrenrangliste, but are no Reserveoffiziere shown only

    As you mention aktive Offiziere and wiederverwendete aktive Offiziere from 1866 and 1870

    @ Chip, I don´t know what II on the Major boards means and the heirs didn´t either.

    Here his others

    Hartong_Hptm_Feldgrau_Telegraphen_a.thum

    Hartong_HptmTelegraphen_ba.thumb.jpg.695

    Regards
    Andreas

     

    Posted (edited)

    Do you think he served almost in 1870?

    There was a Lt. Hartong, before 1900. Reserveoffizier too, but serving with the Landwehr-Infantry. Bezirkskommando Schleswig

    Edited by The Prussian
    Posted

    Andreas,

    This is the info I have on Hptm.d.L. Hartong.  I can find nothing in the MWB that shows he was promoted Major, though that does not mean much if these items come directly from his family. 

    Andy

    Name

    Rang

    geb

    Hptm

    Oblt

    Leutn

    Landwehrbezirk

    Stellung

    Hartong,

    Hptm.

    30.01.1870

    22.03.1914

    18.10.1909

    25.11.1898

    Landwehr d. Telegraphentruppen (Soest)

    1908 Oberpostprakt. in Oppeln

     

    Posted

    Well, Andy. the fact, he was born in 1870 he wouldn´t have been sreved in 70/71... Probably he was active in 1888 or later.

    I´ll check it later, tonight I had a few wines too  much...

    Posted

    I´ve found another Hartong, but I don´t know, if he is it...

    Rangliste 1899:

    Reserveoffizier Leutnant Hartong from Schleswig in Inf.Rgt.84

    Rangliste 1900:

    Reserveoffizier Leutnant Hartong fro m Schleswig in Tel.Btl.2

    Rangliste 1904:

    Reserveoffizier Leutnant Hartong from Aachen in Inf.Rgt.29

    Reserveoffizier Leutnant Hartong from Oppeln in Tel.Btl.2

    Posted

    Hi Andy and Andy,

    I think it  is him, the age seems to fit to the rank.

    Today i spoke to the grandchildren, they told me that he was working

    as an higher civil servant with the post and that he served in WWI and

    abrakadabra this came out from a drawer.

    Hartong_Knopflochschleife.thumb.jpg.8479Knopflochschleife with:

    Eisernes Kreuz 1914 2nd class

    Kreuz für Kriegshilfe

    Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2nd classs Braunschweig

    Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg

    Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

    Centenarmedaille 

    and Landwehrdienstauszeichnung 1th class

    Regards
    Andreas

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