Stuka f Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 I managed to figure out what they are, but no clue to what they are worth.Could anyone give me an idea, please?
dante Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Nice to see the Africa, Italy and France/Germany star, the last medal is the Territorial long service medal which will be named, depending on the Rank and unit will depend on price
Stuka f Posted October 5, 2015 Author Posted October 5, 2015 Forgive me my lack of knowlegde, but I tought all britisch medals were named and I do indeed only see the Territorial long service medal to be named on the bar.It was 100€ euro so I bought it.The engraving on the last medal says "T.87146 DYR.EN.NEEDS R.A.S.C."...not a clue for what it stands...!!??On the bar it self it says "CA 2524"....Some better shots; RASC probably stands for ; The Royal Army Service Corps !?
dante Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Driver , Royal Army Service Corps , can you confirm the initials and name, by the way you got a good purchase
Stuka f Posted October 5, 2015 Author Posted October 5, 2015 Thanks Dante!I do confirme the "T.87146 DYR.EN.NEEDS R.A.S.C" exept for one letter the"Y" must be a "V" .
dante Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 It should read DVR not DYR, DVR is an abbreviation for the rank of Driver, similar to private in the infantry, the initials EN can you confirm should be E.N ?
Stuka f Posted October 5, 2015 Author Posted October 5, 2015 I understood the DVR abreviation, I also corrected it im my previous post.;-)About the "EN"; I do confirme it is "EN", with no point between the "E" and the "N".
dante Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Ok there should be a point between initials, can you photograph the naming ( I cannot find a E N Needs in ancestry )
Stuka f Posted October 5, 2015 Author Posted October 5, 2015 Here is the best pic I have for the momment.
dante Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Maybe renamed, when you can please send better pictures
Stuka f Posted October 5, 2015 Author Posted October 5, 2015 I am trying, but these are my best shots, sorry.
james_harvey Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Records won't be on ancestry as ww2. price is approx £100 so a good price medals are mounted wrong as they are overlapping the wrong way.
Stuka f Posted November 23, 2015 Author Posted November 23, 2015 They are indeed mounted wrongly, but thise is how they came from a house clearence, so it must have a reason. Here is a additional item to it someone found;
peter monahan Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) The document is a Dutch Marriage Certificate from the Municipality of Berchem, part of southern Antwerp, for the marriage of Edwards Nicholas Deeds and a Bertha Wauters, presumably a Dutch girl, so Driver Needs brought home a war bride after his soldiering in Africa, Italy and the Netherlands. Well done, that man! Sadly, WWII British medals were not named. Nor were those issued to Canadians or Aussies, I think, but South Africa and the Indian Army went the extra furlong and had them named. Edited November 26, 2015 by peter monahan
Gunner 1 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Not to be pedantic but the last medal in the group is the Efficiency Medal. There has never been a "Territorial Long Service Medal". From 1908 to 1911 it was the 'Territorial Force Efficiency Medal'; from 1921 to 1930 it was the 'Territorial Efficiency Medai'. On 17 October 1930 it was re-designated as the "Efficiency Medal' because it was awarded not only to the Territorial Army but also to the Indian Volunteer Forces and the Colonial Auxiliary Forces (i.e. to all the volunteer forces in the UK and the Commonwealth). Later it was also awarded to the T&AVR and to many officers who held Regular Army Emergency Commissions during WWII. According to Ancestry an Edward N. Needs was born at Neath Wales in second quarter 1919 which matches well with the 10 April 1919 date of birth on his marriage certificate.
Stuka f Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 7 hours ago, peter monahan said: The document is a Dutch Marriage Certificate from the Municipality of Berchem, part of southern Antwerp, for the marriage of Edwards Nicholas Deeds and a Bertha Wauters, presumably a Dutch girl, so Driver Needs brought home a war bride after his soldiering in Africa, Italy and the Netherlands. Well done, that man! Sadly, WWII British medals were not named. Nor were those issued to Canadians or Aussies, I think, but South Africa and the Indian Army went the extra furlong and had them named. Indeed! Sorry I should have specify that. It was just so obvious to me. Just one rectification; there is a difference between Dutch and Flemish! Dutch is anything related to the Netherlands, Flemish is to Flanders/ Belgium. And Berchem being part of Antwerp,like you correctly stated, makes it Flemish. cheers |<ris 26 minutes ago, Gunner 1 said: Not to be pedantic but the last medal in the group is the Efficiency Medal. There has never been a "Territorial Long Service Medal". From 1908 to 1911 it was the 'Territorial Force Efficiency Medal'; from 1921 to 1930 it was the 'Territorial Efficiency Medai'. On 17 October 1930 it was re-designated as the "Efficiency Medal' because it was awarded not only to the Territorial Army but also to the Indian Volunteer Forces and the Colonial Auxiliary Forces (i.e. to all the volunteer forces in the UK and the Commonwealth). Later it was also awarded to the T&AVR and to many officers who held Regular Army Emergency Commissions during WWII. According to Ancestry an Edward N. Needs was born at Neath Wales in second quarter 1919 which matches well with the 10 April 1919 date of birth on his marriage certificate. Not pedantic at all! Always glad to learn. I just copied what I found on the net, during my search; without checking it. |<
peter monahan Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Kris - My bad! I know perfectly well that Antwerp is in Belgium - I was there in June this year. Interesting, too, that Google Translate will accept Flemish as 'Dutch' and give one a usable translation.
Stuka f Posted November 27, 2015 Author Posted November 27, 2015 On 26-11-2015 07:56:56, Gunner 1 said: 35 minutes ago, peter monahan said: Kris - My bad! I know perfectly well that Antwerp is in Belgium - I was there in June this year. Interesting, too, that Google Translate will accept Flemish as 'Dutch' and give one a usable translation. Hey Peter, no harm done. Most translations will say Duth for Flemish. We are a minority and have been oppressed since ages! (lol!!) And I don't know why I am in this frame, but I could post any other way....!?
peter monahan Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Odd, I didn't get the impression that anyone in Antwerp was feeling oppressed, though the propriater of a book shop [Flemish] got quite shirty with me when I enquired - In French, I'm afraid - if she had any books in English or French. I was looking for a bird guide and didn't think one in Flemish would help me much! Edited November 28, 2015 by peter monahan
Stuka f Posted November 29, 2015 Author Posted November 29, 2015 I don't know much about birds...but if you might need any carthography regarding were to find anything (birds as well!), i can only recommend; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerardus_Mercator ;-)
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