order_of_victory Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Here is a intrestingitem I found on ebay and I was wondering if any body could shed any light on it.Heres the Seller Discription of the item,"A couple weeks ago I attended the biggest militaria show in the USA ? the MAX show. I was lucky to obtain there a strong group (I wouldn?t call it a ?collection? ? rather ?accumulation?) of Soviet orders and medals. I am starting to break it. Though I am not a specialist in Soviet decorations, I?ll do my best to give the best descriptions I can. This lot is the COPY of the Star of the HERO of the USSR. It is the OFFICIAL ISSUE of the MOSCOW MINT (VERY RARE SUCH!). ORIGINAL Mint screw. PROPER INSCRIPTION on the back! I've not seen the cimilar item for several years! $3.50 shipping in the USA with delivery confirmation. We accept PayPal and all major credit cards. Good luck! The scan shows the exact decoration which made the lot. Don't confuse this copy with other copies, which were commercially made! This is one of a kind item! RARE!!! The item is in perfect condition. The scan is ABSOLUTELY no good. "Now ive never heard of a offical copy of an award before.....I will try and get a better picture but last time the seller would not supply a better a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 First off, this is an outright fake, and not one that would be considered a "wearing copy". This award is far too rough for that.Second, the whole "wearing copy" debate has raged in the Soviet awards community for years. Some will insist that they produced them, and even some HSUs have remembered them, but up to this time no one has yet to be able to present one as evidence. I personally have one in my collection which was actually worn by an HSU, but it is a locally made piece that I don't consider to be a "real" wearing copy but rather a one-off that is more of an oddball than anything else. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 So its just a comon copy and nothing special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 So its just a comon copy and nothing special As far as I'm concerned.... yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 Dave,Do you have any idea on why this 'copy' has not got a screw post but a pin fastener?Is it a feature of most wear copies?Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Dave,Do you have any idea on why this 'copy' has not got a screw post but a pin fastener?Is it a feature of most wear copies?Order of VictoryThe preponderance of evidence and opinion seems to sugget that "wearing copies" are no more than the product of over-active imaginations, mainly propelled by those who have a desire to sell fakes as if they were real awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastie Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Dave,Do you have any idea on why this 'copy' has not got a screw post but a pin fastener?Is it a feature of most wear copies?Order of VictoryThe faker was being cheap and might have used a Lenin Centenary pinback for the ribbon holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 My guess for the pinback is to make it "look" like something someone would wear as a wearing copy. After all, a lot of screwback awards were converted to pinback over the years in order to avoid tearing holes in uniforms and suitcoats, so it would a safe assumption that someone would want a wearing copy Gold Star without the dreaded screwpost.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 DaveThat makes sense, i never thought about it like that Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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